Re: The Guterres framework and our sorry Leaders

https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus46293.html#p868595

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...on the 30 June Eide presents a written "statement", which were his notes on what Guterres said.

...on 4 July, a revised "statement" was presented; which was not agreed upon.

...while Mr Akinci may have made his offer, it was by twitter?

...Mr. Anastasiades' reply suggests something more (or different) was agreed to, given that a second ''statement'' was awaited and read.

Clarity is needed.

...you may have read this thread,

https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus46251.html#p868577

...there are very subtle indications of the bigger conflict Akinci has with Turkey; that decisive moments will come soon.

As politicians go, i have more confidence in Anastasiades, than any other potential leader in Cyprus. No sellout, he stands for the Republic of Cyprus, not "Greeks''. He gave everything to the "Turks" that they asked for at Crans Montana, no blame, no restitution, a BBF, and a map which changes very little, but the so called negotiations ''failed'', his "fault", standing alone as the President of Cyprus defending the one thing he would not give away, Sovereignty.

...beyond the Guterres framework, if it is agreed, Mr. Akinci may make clearer his intentions (talk about guts) by standing for a photograph with Mr. Anastasiades shaking hands with the Flag of Cyprus behind them. Would Mr. Anastasiades refuse? Can Erdogan stop them? It will be the "Greeks" and "Turks" who will refute its significance with their outrage, exposing themselves in this unity as the same and no different as adversaries to a Cypriot identity.

It is up to Akinci, is he Cypriot, or not? What is his Legacy as a builder, an architect, a leader, and as a man? He must have the courage to actually stand up and represent the electorate that voted for him. In simple terms if he seeks for his "community'' recognition as a Constituency, the "new" Cyprus that is put to him is not the way, it does not matter which ''statement'', June or July. He must demonstrate that he recognises, that his ideal is possible as Cypriots through constitutional reform; as Cypriots, not as "Turks", and that which is not "Turkish". In short, he can demand that the Communal Chamber is opened, (or perhaps Mr. Anastasiades should offer to do this first, another "dinner" could iron that out), that there are Greek Cypriot representatives there waiting for them (this time) in their seats. He can represent his support for what undeniably exists as a starting point, a Cypriot People. He can prepare his Constituency for the next elections in Cyprus' Legislature (in three years) with Candidates and Platforms that make a better Cyprus, for Cyprus, with this intention returning to the seats that remain empty, there. New thinking is needed indeed; new perspectives too. "Being" Cypriot is not insignificant.

...the Problem, is an International issue, and on many levels. Many would like it to be diminished to a problem among a population of Cypriots as though in any outcome Cyprus will continue to exist as a place to live. But Cyprus is not just an island, it is a People who take very seriously their responsibilities as a member of a wider Family of Man. Cyprus divided, invites Turkey's division. While "Turkishness" is as a result very present in Cyprus, after decades, it has failed. Cypriots in the occupied territories (and in Cyprus itself) continue to vote for a Leadership that is for Cypriots, a unity based on Universal Principals, as Individuals and a State, as opposed to the candidates who do(did) not recognise "Cypriotness", if you will. I would say without a doubt that what happens in Cyprus will have a big affect/effect on Turkish politics. A solution will provide in Turkey, Hope to its Turks, or its "Turks". It will have the same affect/effect throughout the region, as a template, in resolving the conflicts with this same Problem.

Greek foreign minister in Nicosia court over Kykkos land battle

https://cyprus-mail.com/2018/05/07/greek-foreign-minister-in-nicosia-court-in-kykkos-land-battle/

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...this is the day, Cyprus, has become a Country.

I ask myself, it's pseudo-legal equal if "they" have the same capacity, to brave "their" "motherland's" contempt, in a Court of Law accordingly.

...anyone that thinks the Republic of Cyprus is a puppet of Greece has this incident to consider, while Cyprus is mostly Greek, they are no "Greeks".

One hopes the same can be said for Turkish Cypriots one day. As puppets, their dependence is complete. "Greeks" live among Greeks, there is no denying it, Turks live among "Turks"; it is something to think about.

Re: Akinci makes a challemge

https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus46251.html#p867820

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...i know that the risk is that the UN, Guterres in particular, will opt for a devolution of the Problem, as one between "Greeks" and "Turks", rather than an International Problem where the symptoms present an opportunity, where Cypriots exist, being an island, having a small population, to define and end the ignorance that promotes such hatred, that those who promote "themselves" with such intolerance are ignoring Humanity itself. He may not be Mr. Annan with his Annan 5, he is no Ban Ki Moon, if there is a line to draw, he may be the one to do it. What he needs from Cypriots is this confidence, that he will do his job.

If Mr. Anastasiades chooses to reply negatively, it will be difficult to reason why. Although, without Mr. Akinci's upfront commitment to Cyprus, as Cypriot, first, it is not likely that Anastasiades can agree to any "new" Cyprus. Indeed, there is every reason to believe that Akinci's challenge is a ploy, for "Turkishness", because the negative reply is to be expected. If it is a last gasp, for "Cypriotness", we may see these men standing for a photo together shaking hands with the Flag of Cyprus behind them in the near future. Without such a photo, an intention to reform the Constitution, is just not possible. With it, i imagine the next big step would be to see a Communal Chamber and a Legislature filled with good intentions toward this end, representing Cypriots as Individuals, and as Person.

Time will tell, the next step, this offers to be one of those...