Re: Iran launches massive missile/drone attack on Israel

 https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus49159-30.html#p941676

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...@Kiks: don't blame the system; America is, great.

And do not despair, remain a Patriot to the values it has evolved to, the Universal Principles on which such a notion of a Human race is founded upon. Indeed, you speak of Ignorance, the enemy within, a corrupted Leadership which does not have the courage to be by example entirely truthful; their words meaningless as a result, provoking in affect the same Hateful enterprise in kind. Reason is needed; the dogged recognition that denial is no solution: change includes better intentions from 'us' and "Them", blaming "Them" is not enough as a positive action, choosing one "side" or the "other" is as mistaken too.

...more than ever America needs Americans, not "Americans" but Citizens of the World.

Manifesto: for your consideration

 https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus16772-30.html

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Yes...this is the core: culture. In defence we strive in our daily lives to learn more about ourselves and our place in the society around us and its culture. Yet, beyond the isolation before the Modern Age the Individual was the Person. Today identities are far more complex because of our Communication skills, the velocity of Social-Exchange, and the demands of our Environment, which requires our inclusiveness at exponentially faster rates.

consider the situation of Palestinians at present who are effectively living in enclaves. forget the misery for a second and imagine, landwise not much change; but free movement association and expression three governments in Jerusalem with Arabs and Isrealis in a Bicommunal State much like what I am proposing for the consideration of the Cypriot people.

...and what is wrong with "enclaves" if in their pure geographic context they define "zonality" for people whose identitiy includes their Persons, as well as a self, defined by their Individual Rights as an equal.

particularly, National Assemblies oblige the majority ("Turkish" as well as "Greek") to provide the balance in their leadership which affords the demonstration of Good Faith, toward their own betterment with the recognition of those who are unlike them, but with their own special needs. The reciprocation of these efforts in the National Assemblies, I imagine will provide great margins of scale for them to refine a culture of their own, if their efforts of transparency provides to many other cultures a link to their own root by being Cypriot, especially if the State itself prospers by faciliting this exchange for us who are active in our Global 'mobility' as an inclusive People.

In any case, the State is free, from cultural bias, and in its Governance it is seen to have as a culture the counterbalncing of power, for all its citizens before any other interest.

Kombos: Cyprus ready for talks, Turkish side imposing conditions

 https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/04/11/kombos-cyprus-ready-for-talks-turkish-side-imposing-conditions/

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...and what is an equal to a Turkish Constituency but a Greek Constituency? And along with other Cypriot Constituencies representing themselves, as Persons demonstrating their Goodwill in goodfaith, as majorities providing for the special needs of the minorities that live among them as well; why not?

Indeed, in a Republic of Cyprus, Constitutionally reformed, that represents us as Individuals first without discrimination or distinction, 'we' could defend ourselves, our Human Rights, the Universal Principles on which they are based. And, at another level of government we may nurture the distinct identities which are this island's ethnosphere, in kindness. (What is a BBF?)

...what is lacking is the courage of our elites to "be" Cypriot, winning their power from Cypriots, artificially divided, as "Greeks" or "Turks". And, who (the People), despite the decades of "This", never vote overwhelmingly for "Greeks" or "Turks". Cypriots are badly represented as such. (This is worth thinking about.)

'We' have only to think about why Cyprus is not already "Theirs", seriously. Let us meet on our beaches as Cypriots to do what Cypriots do best, and eat souvla; who would be against that?

There is ‘room for hope’ on Cyprus problem

 https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/03/31/there-is-room-for-hope-on-cyprus-problem/

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...if Mdme. Kassianidou can sit at a meeting celebrating the TMT, it would be normal for her to be sitting at a function celebrating the same event for EOKA; that would make sense as a rule, and this is a sad absurdity, given our circumstances hypocrisy in short, representing Cypriots as their Deputy Minister of Culture.

...with what EOKA and the TMT became they leave 'us' very little to celebrate; "Greekness" and "Turkishness" are the Cypriots bane.

And it is an insult to Cypriots who gather together in mourning, who do not forget what lessons that should have been learned.

Along with these families, of those who were murdered or made to disappear at "their" bloody hands for "being" Cypriot, i/I choose to stand. How can a Cypriot choose differently?

...in my mind it is this we must not forget in overcoming our own Ignorance. "This" cannot stand. Indeed the Hopefulness comes from the People, not from the Leadership it seems.

...shame on the Republic and on the "other" republic who do not serve the rest of us: the larger half so to speak, the voters who for decades that have never voted overwhelmingly for "These" ideals.

Turkey is bankrupt

 https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus47377-970.html#p941163

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...if as you imply generally speaking, the whole world has gone to shit, Turkey is bankrupt and so too the rest of "Them"; in such corruption it is a matter of confidence instead.

Erdogan, (at this point,) in effect to have a lasting Legacy, must save the World so to speak and he can by demonstrating the qualities of a Statesman, not for his "brothers" and not for any other International cabal but for 'us' (and in his own State the People); exposing "This" for what it is, by changing intentions solving his Problem in Turkey for starters, that in the Ukraine, in Cyprus, and dare i say it the land once Jordan's as well: needing Constitutional Reform what is wrong with a BBF i ask?

...one that respects the identity of people as Individuals who, as Persons demonstrate the same respect toward each other.

Government ire at ‘all Cyprus could be Turkish’ comment

 https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/03/19/government-ire-at-all-cyprus-could-be-turkish-comment/

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...unlike Putin's Russia, Turkey did not make the invasion an existential question for "Greeks", and thus it was possible to establish an (illegal) regime for "Turkishness", in Cyprus.

...and now Mr. Erdogan laments what could have been if Turkey had the Armed Forces they have today, he is bragging actually, (with him in control) how much they have grown; seeing Ukraine, as it is today "Russia's" predicament, he knows better but he can't help himself.

60-year-old embargoes on Turkish Cypriots spiteful and unfair

 https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/03/10/60-year-old-embargoes-on-turkish-cypriots-spiteful-and-unfair/

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...indeed, we did live well together before the "Greeks" and "Turks" took on their cause for "Hellenism" and "Turkishness". I remember, with pride 'we' our village were Great Cooperators, there was trust and respect among us, we worked well together, we were in effect self-sustaining despite the 'taxman', the 'agent', and the 'others' who did not care for our collective tradition, a "mixed" village we were called because "they" found it strange.

...indeed i remember, with Cyprus 'ours' in three short years there was asphalt on roads, a light in the kitchen, and water for drinking just outside my door. (Something the British had not provided.)

...indeed, i remember those who stayed behind when the invasion started, because they were Cypriots, because they believed in greater Principles as Citizens of the World, in a Family of Man. They, are our Heroes. I do not forget that either. And i ask why there is no memorial for these murdered and missing where we the living may mourn together these men women and children for who they are (and who 'we' are) because they did not die as "Greeks" and "Turks" but at their bloody hands.

Who speaks for 'us' the greater half actually, the Cypriots who vote as Cypriots Turkish and Greek even unnaturally divided over decades never once choosing one of ''Their'' candidates overwhelmingly? This is the Problem. It is not a problem of Greeks vs Turks, or "Turks" vs "Greeks", but how Greeks and Turks are ignored by "Greeks" and "Turks" who hold the Agenda.

...indeed i ask, who would be against it if Cypriots took to their beaches to eat souvla together and under the one Flag that is rightfully theirs, the Flag of Cyprus; ask yourselves, ask yourself.

Tatar: No one can stop the Turkish Cypriots from achieving their own state

 https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/03/08/tatar-no-one-can-stop-the-turkish-cypriots-from-achieving-their-own-state/

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If anything, Mr. Tatar is misrepresenting Turkish Cypriots who in effect do not support the efforts he makes for "Turkishness".

...indeed, "Cypriot Turks" like to think that only "Greeks" are Cypriots, "Greeks" in fact would like the rest of us believe that too. But it is not the case, as we have seen over the decades because not once have Cypriots swayed on either side of the "Line" by voting overwhelmingly for one of "Their" candidates.

And where is the Greek Constituency, like a Turkish Constituency, to nurture their distinctions and to demonstrate as Persons their respect for the minorities that live among them?

...indeed, as Individuals, with a State without distinction or discrimination, we can defend each other under a Rule of Law. Being a BBF, even more, we can demonstrate the same trust and respect toward each other at a second level of Government, as Persons, as well. (The EU, for example is a BBF, so is the USA.)

Mr. Tatar is mistaken, he deludes himself if he believes that his Ignorance will be accepted because the World is as Ignorant as he is. He asks the wrong questions because he is not a Cypriot; if he did he would have all that he is asking for.

Talat: Turkey’s Cyprus stance ‘a complete fiasco’

 

https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/03/06/talat-turkeys-cyprus-stance-a-complete-fiasco/

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Distinctions must be made between "Cypriot Turks" and Turkish Cypriots, just as there are "Greeks" and Greeks who live on this island too; this much is true.

...of course the "Greeks" and "Turks" will never join in unity.

But, 'we' can. Enosis, in this context is not a dirty word...
...and a Cypriot meaning exposes "Them" to their corruption.

"This" is at the root of the Problem which in Cyprus, as it is in Turkey, and as it is evolving in the Ukraine a matter of intentions, a question of Universal Principles that are being challenged by "Persons" over 'our' identity as Individuals, in affect, denying us as Human Beings the notion of equality, of having the same needs as a minority or a majority by "Their" elite and "Their" dogma(s).

(Dare i say in Gaza we see "Its" most extreme results.)

Let's not forget that Cyprus is still Cyprus because even after all these decades of being unnaturally torn apart Cypriots vote as Cypriots never once voting overwhelmingly for one of "Their" candidates. And Cypriots whether counted as two peoples or one, it is clear that, they are neither "Greeks" or "Turks"; this is also something to think about.

...i dream of elders, men like Mr. Talat who will join together with 'us' the People on our beaches having picnics under the one Flag that rightfully belongs to all Cypriots, their flag, the Flag of Cyprus.

Who would be against such a notion ask yourselves.

...'we' are not few as "They" will have the world believe;

Cypriot lives matter too.

Debate over Cyprus-Israel film agreement heats up

 https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/02/29/debate-over-cyprus-israel-film-agreement-heats-up/

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...so that it can be demonstrated some stories in life touch us all; stories worth telling.

Just like the Problem in Cyprus it is a war of "Jews" and "Arabs" against the notions of Jews and Arabs.

...i do not believe all Jews are "Jews" and all Arabs are "Arabs"; i suspect you do.

Greek minister: half of Cyprus is Turkish

 https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/02/21/greek-minister-half-of-cyprus-is-turkish/

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...yes, had the coupists been successful Cyprus would have been "Greek" and the other half "Turkish". What is ignored by "Hellenists" and "Turks" is that beyond these dogmas exists a world beyond them, which Cypriots (have already) embraced.

But the coupists failed. Greek Cypriots who supported it were very few. Thus it is fair to say Cypriots are not few as "They" would have the rest of us believe, and they speak as much as they are silenced/silent, never once betraying the notion of "being" Cypriot, never once voting overwhelmingly for one of "Their" candidates at the polls even after so many decades of being so unnaturally torn apart Turkish or Greek, they hold in this way together above "This".

...indeed, Cypriots are divided, who i ask keeps it this way?

Re: Ukrainian Issue

 https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus47975-11970.html#p940190

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...yes Lordo, fifty years later Cypriots are still ignored, by the invader and the coupists without support who failed.

...and let's remember that had Putin been truthful Ukrainians would not be defending their very existence. Russia has no reason to have attacked the Ukraine but for the sake of "Ukrainians", who as a "Russian" he has defined.

What is the Problem is the same; intentions count.

...unlike "You" the Danes are not looking for some tribute, something to gain; they stand on Principle as Patriots toward a cause that is Universal, and at a time not of their own choosing but because it is necessary.

Re: WHY ON EARTH HAVE THEY OPENED UP VAROSHA?????

 https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus47539-10.html#p940152

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..."winning" i suppose, is what counts. If you are "Turkish" in Cyprus or if you are "Greek" your lives have the added burden of being hateful toward each other and ignorant to your victims, those of us on this island defending Universal Principles.

But, as an enterprise it seems quite profitable for both of "You"; what with the Cypriots (the other half) still struggling with what was usurped from them, their Individual Rights: to "be" Cypriots and to be loving persons as such.

...such as it is 'we' are still here. (whatever "You" say about each other)

While things are (un)changing "things" do not go on for ever, those silenced or silent will speak.

Turkish Cypriots encouraged to vote in European election

https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/02/16/turkish-cypriots-encouraged-to-vote-in-european-election/ 

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Such an election should expose our political parties to the same criticism, who represents Cypriots best Turkish and/or Greek? Who unlike "Them" ("Cypriot Turk" and "Greek") espouse a Cypriot identity.

...what has AKEL done toward this end since the last election where their candidate, (for the first time) a Turkish Cypriot, was chosen by Cypriots to represent 'us'.

...i ask, where is DISY? Have they, since then, cultured any dialog with Parties in the occupied territories who support a Cypriot way? What makes them a Party all Cypriots may choose?

In any case, i do not despair; i remember, who has kept the notion of Cypriots existing: the voters who even after decades of this corruption for/of power do not betray themselves, leaderless in affect the other half as i like to call them as Cypriots, who do not succumb to "Thisness" defending Universal Principles instead.

The Cyprus problem gets lost in translation

 https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/02/11/the-cyprus-problem-gets-lost-in-translation/#comment-6389181870

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...indeed, the Cyprus Problem got lost in translation.

It is as though "Greekness" and/or "Turkishness" are important, that "They" are more important than the Individual Rights and/or Identity of Cypriots that was usurped from them.

It is as though 'we' will be sacrificed, those of us who defend Universal Principles, those of us lost in this "translation'' neither "Greek'' or "Turkish", the other half if you will which for decades as voters have never betrayed the notion of their 'Cypriotness'; voting never once overwhelmingly for one of "Their" candidates, those who have remained civil and reasoned despite the fact that having voted for Cypriot representation for so long, they have so little of it.

...what is the problem in Cyprus: it is not about Greeks vs. Turks, or about "Turks" vs. "Greeks", it is about "Greeks"/"Turks" vs Turks/Greeks; this is the Problem. And, if you think about it, it is the same problem affecting Turkey in its Constitutional reform, the Ukraine as it is evolving, (and dare i say it the conflict of the "Jews"/"Arabs").

Booking.com warns tourists entering Cyprus from the north

 https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/02/12/booking-com-warns-tourists-entering-cyprus-from-the-north/

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...respect to booking.com.

...what is a quick buck is not in their mission and such integrity counts.

Cypriot lives matter; (still) the larger half if you will, Greek and Turkish who are neither "Greek" or "Turkish".

A signal of doom from last British governor to Cyprus

 https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/02/04/a-signal-of-doom-from-last-british-governor-to-cyprus/

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...indeed i do recall, the coup and how it ended; imagine how things would be like had "They" succeeded.

...indeed, i do not despair because despite the "Greeks" and "Turks" who do everything to bend 'us' like chattel, they fail. If it were not for Cypriots Greek and Turkish who see life differently, Cypriots would be no more.

One day, i imagine that Cypriots will overcome their fears and instead taking to their beaches for picnics, and under their Flag, the one that is rightfully theirs, the Flag of Cyprus, share souvla: who would be against it ask yourselves.

...if our leadership continues to represent themselves as the "Greek" representative or the "Turkish" representative, what is left i ask for the People wanting change, somehow to be represented as Cypriots (first), but to represent themselves accordingly, thus exposing "Their" weaknesses, with their own demonstrations of unity and strength.

Cyprus is Cypriot let's not forget because of its voters; despite decades torn unnaturally they have never once betrayed this notion of "being" Cypriot, never once having voted overwhelmingly for one of "Their" candidates.

Enosis is the only solution but Cypriots must take back the word and in practical terms give it a Cypriot meaning.

Nicosia must ‘avoid generalisations’ on Cyprus problem

 https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/01/31/nicosia-must-avoid-generalisations-on-cyprus-problem/

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...such an insulting man, he dares to suggest that somehow "Hellenism" in Cyprus has been the cornerstone of our prosperity and health, which without it we could not survive. I fear the "Greeks" frankly, just as much as i do, the "Turks". And for Greeks, Turks, and Cypriots, "They" are a bane to our existence with their dogmas and their zeal.

...indeed, i ask, will 'we' be betrayed again; (i.e.: the coup, the financial crash), for "Greece's" greater glory, will it come down to that in the negotiations that will follow soon with Turkey?

Enosis, i see enosis as the only solution. Cypriots taking back the word from "Them" by giving it a Cypriot meaning.

...yes, let's avoid "generalisations", Cypriots are not "Greeks", nor are they "Turkish", as Greeks and Turks like other Individuals everywhere on this planet they seek something more: to live without fear, to be judged on their merit and not on "who" they are, to have equal opportunity at finding happiness; to ''be'' Human above all.

A State is needed; not a "Greek" state and a "Turkish" state, although such Constituencies at another level of Government would be welcome. A BBF in Turkey, i will add, like in Cyprus is needed. Greece may think about that wanting to be helpful toward 'us', and to secure for themselves among neighbours the same peaceful relations.

...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus43994-990.html#p939852

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Lordo wrote:

repulsewarrior wrote:

Lordo wrote:

Similarity between Ukraine war and Gaza is incredible.

1. Both aggressors are sponsored by America

2. Both are trying to ethnically cleans people and grab land belonging to others

3. Both are Nazis

4. Both signed an agreement they had no intention of keeping

5. Both can call a ceasefire any time they wish and they choose not to.

Interesting ain it?

...for the record, i think you are mistaken.

With respect RW tell me which bits you disagree with?

By all means take them apart point by point.

1. Aggressors, are you comparing "Russians", (never mind "Ukrainians"; they are 'gone' now just like the "Greeks"), with "Jews"? And who are the "Americans", think carefully; and who are they rooting for?

2. Who are you talking about, really? The "Russians" the "Jews", the "Americans", or to bring it closer to home, the "Turks"?

3. Don't kid yourself Lordo, Nazis are everywhere, and they are a scourge wherever they are; but yes in that regard i will agree with you that there are Nazis who are "Jews".

4. ...and who has signed an agreement with the intention of keeping it? Those of us who would sign an agreement and keep it in any case are unnaturally torn apart by the mythic reality that "They" would have us believe, that 'we' are few.

5. Who tried to call a "ceasefire"; all these decades? Let's be serious, "They" hold the agenda, wherever there is this problem (it seems i am the only one left to remember when "it" was called The Problem), in any case it's 'us' the other half who will pay their (and these) costs; whether as Individuals, having defended Universal Principles for Freedom and Rights that go with a Human Condition, or, questioning these values without Liberty as Persons in affect "Forbidden" to associate.

Both Cyprus and Israel are very good examples of a Democracy under threat where it has been demonstrated again and again (over decades) that no extremists have ever won an overwhelming majority. (Particularly in Israel, (with its present situation) let us remember who Bibi really is, he has a lot of history and in any case his power is not on solid foundations to say the least.) It is for this reason Lordo, that i do not despair; perhaps i have more faith than you in Humanity. I believe in 'us' and the power of us as Hateful beings, yes, but (unlike you perhaps) not against each other, Lest we Forget, there are bigger enemies to focus upon like disease and hunger worth such ruthlessness. No, it is by kindness, reason, that what is prevailing as misery is overcome, by embracing such a future unknown, to "be" Loving, by changing intentions making changes, by overcoming the fear we have among 'us' and within ourselves, uniting, ending Ignorance ("This" plunder) as well.

...a BBF is good for Israel, a BBF is good for Palestine too, just like a BBF is good for Ukraine and, in Turkey, (some good examples); in Cyprus it should (have been) be easy because it is an island after-all and its population is (very) small.

...you are mistaken, like having picked a "side" from the stock that has been around for a while, selling it like "new", like in a bizarre where one can say anything to draw a buyers' attention, like "it" is better than "another" when in reality "they" are the same (actually for "both" hidden from the clients the one 'thing' feared the most in such a marketplace, which is Modern and more reasoned, what has the better pattern).

‘Measures for Turkish Cypriots are an admission of guilt’

 https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/02/01/measures-for-turkish-cypriots-are-an-admission-of-guilt/

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...Eide said it, Cypriots if left to solve their problem alone, would have solved it long ago.

Let's remember who keeps Cypriots together despite the decades of having been unnaturally divided; their Individual Rights usurped from them by those who call each other "Greeks" and "Turks".

...it is 'us' that has prevented this island from being torn in two, the voters Turkish and Greek who have never voted in any election overwhelmingly for one of "Their" candidates. This is something worth thinking about.

Cyprus hits back at ‘skyscrapers on stolen lands’

 https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/01/21/cyprus-hits-back-at-skyscrapers-on-stolen-lands/

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...if Greeks were "Greeks" and Turks were "Turks", this island's dwellers would have split long time ago.

But, they are not.

...let's remember who has kept us united. Not our Leadership having taken "sides" but the voters who despite the decades of being unnaturally torn apart (and without proper representation) still vote as Cypriots, never having overwhelmingly voted for one of "Their" candidates even once.

...and, let's not forget that while the "Greeks'' succeeded in their coup it took three days to fail because Cypriots, more precisely Greek Cypriots, overwhelmingly, did not support it.

Do not delude yourself Cemal with "Their" dogmas so hateful and unjust; Cypriots exist and they matter too.

Kombos says dialogue with Turkey on natural gas welcome

 

https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/01/07/kombos-says-dialogue-with-turkey-on-natural-gas-welcome/

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...even Palestine and Israel sit at the table as equal partners at the East Med. Gas Forum. Only Turkey's chair (and Syria's) remains empty because of her desire for supremacy on and under this sea.

Indeed, not only Cyprus but in effect the whole world hopes that Turkey will at least recognise and respect International Law, UNCLOS in particular when it comes to natural-gas, with Cyprus as with all her neighbours.