https://armenianweekly.com/2019/12/26/oh-woe-is-poor-turkey/
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…if i may add to a most interesting opinion piece, that, Cyprus, is the key to all these issues; i ask:
why must Cypriots be denied their identity as Cypriots, how is it that Turkey as a “National cause” denies their existence; are the Alevi not Turkish, or the Kurds? (never mind the Greeks and the Armenians they hardy exist in Turkey anymore)
…i ask, if Cyprus cannot be “Greek”, how is Turkey “Turkish”?
why has “Turkishness” taken the view that Turks, not “Turkish”, are their adversary, for decades in Cyprus, and now in Turkey, “it” tearing it apart? Is the world, that which is not “Turkish”, what willfully they are hostile toward, what “Turks” are against?
with the Aegean, and now Libya, linked to oil and gas, having been linked to Cyprus, will he negotiate a settlement of equals that is as comprehensive as UNCLOS, and a suitable improvement to the Treaty of Lausanne, having disrupted the balance of power, thus having brought the protagonists together?
…by recognising Cyprus, as Cypriot, he may have all these things; Fame, the esteem of all Humankind, Peace among all his neighbours, even Peace at home. He may find in such a notion, recognising Cypriots as a People whether Turkish or Greek, one country, that Cyprus may be made up of Cypriot constituencies, as Persons quite diverse as well, but that they support equally the Universal Principals on which, as Individuals they are prepared to defend each other.
…by tearing Cyprus in half, isn’t infamy his Legacy?
…is it in Cyprus that he is looking for the “perfect” BBF, something he can emulate?
Thursday, December 26, 2019
Saturday, December 21, 2019
Turkey Racks Up Tension In The Eastern Mediterranean
https://www.eurasiareview.com/21122019-turkey-racks-up-tension-in-the-eastern-mediterranean-oped/#comment-815869
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...except for the first paragraph, "an area largely inhabited by ethnic Turks", the article is factually correct. The late President of the Republic of Cyprus, Mr. Papadopoulos, as a young man, once said that Turkish Cypriots are a part of the Cypriot fabric, that by taking a map of the island and scattering sand over it, one can accurately describe where you would find them.
...indeed, "Turkishness" has divided the island, as it is dividing Turkey now. And yet, lets not forget that those "Turkish" and "Greek" in Cyprus were never busy for the most part killing each other. Those Cypriot, not "Greek" or not "Turkish", those who stayed in their homes and on their farms, those believing that a notion such as Humankind, a Rule of Law, and Universal Principals exists, were their victims, now disappeared, or murdered. This is the Cyprus, "Problem".
...consider, how gas exploration, the Aegean, and now Libya have been linked to the Cyprus Problem.
Consider Erdogan's declared ambitions for a "Blue Turkey", (is the "Russian pond" next?), and that he has declared the Treaty of Lausanne, "tossed out a window"; most recently, "the Treaty of Serves (placed) into the corner", describing as this important, the drones being deployed to the illegally occupied territories in Cyprus. Consider, after the Americans, and the Chinese, what deal did he strike for the Russian S-400s? It is not "equity" Erdogan seeks through his actions, but total supremacy.
Yet, it would not be hard for Erdogan to change his intentions, with the recognition that Cypriots exist. It requires a comprehensive solution involving all of Turkey's neighbours.
One hopes that Erdogan's vision is greater than defining Turkey exclusively as a religious empire centered around a Caliphate in Istanbul, the "protector" of such a State/state; that to the rest of us not "Turkish" he lives, not in infamy, but as a Statesman who deserves much esteem, who by bringing the protagonists together, bettering the world for all.
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...except for the first paragraph, "an area largely inhabited by ethnic Turks", the article is factually correct. The late President of the Republic of Cyprus, Mr. Papadopoulos, as a young man, once said that Turkish Cypriots are a part of the Cypriot fabric, that by taking a map of the island and scattering sand over it, one can accurately describe where you would find them.
...indeed, "Turkishness" has divided the island, as it is dividing Turkey now. And yet, lets not forget that those "Turkish" and "Greek" in Cyprus were never busy for the most part killing each other. Those Cypriot, not "Greek" or not "Turkish", those who stayed in their homes and on their farms, those believing that a notion such as Humankind, a Rule of Law, and Universal Principals exists, were their victims, now disappeared, or murdered. This is the Cyprus, "Problem".
...consider, how gas exploration, the Aegean, and now Libya have been linked to the Cyprus Problem.
Consider Erdogan's declared ambitions for a "Blue Turkey", (is the "Russian pond" next?), and that he has declared the Treaty of Lausanne, "tossed out a window"; most recently, "the Treaty of Serves (placed) into the corner", describing as this important, the drones being deployed to the illegally occupied territories in Cyprus. Consider, after the Americans, and the Chinese, what deal did he strike for the Russian S-400s? It is not "equity" Erdogan seeks through his actions, but total supremacy.
Yet, it would not be hard for Erdogan to change his intentions, with the recognition that Cypriots exist. It requires a comprehensive solution involving all of Turkey's neighbours.
One hopes that Erdogan's vision is greater than defining Turkey exclusively as a religious empire centered around a Caliphate in Istanbul, the "protector" of such a State/state; that to the rest of us not "Turkish" he lives, not in infamy, but as a Statesman who deserves much esteem, who by bringing the protagonists together, bettering the world for all.
Saturday, December 14, 2019
the war against Libya
https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus47200.html
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...for the record, i will include the moments i feel define the historical progress of events.
Libya has already been linked to the Cyprus Problem, like the Gas and Oil in the Eastern Med. (and the Aegean), by Turkey, and the so-called ''TRNC''.
...beyond this, there is the conflict as it is, in Libya, the UN with Turkey and Qatar, against the Russians, French, the Arabs, the US not involved, to sum it up, by the player's allies; (let's not forget Italy's involvement with Libya, France, Greece and Cyprus), Spain too has a Navy, and security interests. It is possible that this issue, Libya, may become a major topic soon.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-12/14/c_138631548.htm
...while it is possible for America, to take the position against Russia, it may be that, in Libya like in Cyprus, Americans and Russians find themselves holding the same position. As allies in these circumstances, a dialog may open that did not exist before, and that can be supported in a manner where Turkey's ambition may also find in it, reward, something beyond the Treaty of Lausanne, with the recognition that Cypriots exist, (so too the Alevi and Kurds in Turkey).
...it is clearer, what "Blue Turkey" means to Turkey's Erdogan, the Black Sea it seems is the final piece of the puzzle, (and the Bosporus). Russia is surely wary, what is their "pond" under threat; it is a fine balance Turkey is playing. Libya, like Syria, depends on Russia's (and American,) non aggression.
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...for the record, i will include the moments i feel define the historical progress of events.
Libya has already been linked to the Cyprus Problem, like the Gas and Oil in the Eastern Med. (and the Aegean), by Turkey, and the so-called ''TRNC''.
...beyond this, there is the conflict as it is, in Libya, the UN with Turkey and Qatar, against the Russians, French, the Arabs, the US not involved, to sum it up, by the player's allies; (let's not forget Italy's involvement with Libya, France, Greece and Cyprus), Spain too has a Navy, and security interests. It is possible that this issue, Libya, may become a major topic soon.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-12/14/c_138631548.htm
...while it is possible for America, to take the position against Russia, it may be that, in Libya like in Cyprus, Americans and Russians find themselves holding the same position. As allies in these circumstances, a dialog may open that did not exist before, and that can be supported in a manner where Turkey's ambition may also find in it, reward, something beyond the Treaty of Lausanne, with the recognition that Cypriots exist, (so too the Alevi and Kurds in Turkey).
...it is clearer, what "Blue Turkey" means to Turkey's Erdogan, the Black Sea it seems is the final piece of the puzzle, (and the Bosporus). Russia is surely wary, what is their "pond" under threat; it is a fine balance Turkey is playing. Libya, like Syria, depends on Russia's (and American,) non aggression.
Sunday, December 08, 2019
Re: TRNC doesn't belong to TC's.
https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus47191-20.html#p891438
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...well said, Sotos.
...who am i?
Certainly not "Greek". And for certain, not "Turk". Yet when i speak it is as though what i propose never existed, and doesn't exist, or can never exist; who i am is dismissed from the conversation, effectively ignored by a debate which affectively makes Greeks, "Greeks", and all Turks, "Turks".
...the myth is easy to understand, "Greek" bad/"Turk" good, or, the other way around, but reality includes people like me, Cypriots who remain, Cypriot.
(and 'we' represent, despite the decades of being unnaturally torn apart, about half the population, any way you count it)
Indeed, something as simple as a flag divides us, and it is as simple to unite under a flag.
...indeed i ask, who treats the Flag of Cyprus as a rag; ask yourselves.
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...well said, Sotos.
...who am i?
Certainly not "Greek". And for certain, not "Turk". Yet when i speak it is as though what i propose never existed, and doesn't exist, or can never exist; who i am is dismissed from the conversation, effectively ignored by a debate which affectively makes Greeks, "Greeks", and all Turks, "Turks".
...the myth is easy to understand, "Greek" bad/"Turk" good, or, the other way around, but reality includes people like me, Cypriots who remain, Cypriot.
(and 'we' represent, despite the decades of being unnaturally torn apart, about half the population, any way you count it)
Indeed, something as simple as a flag divides us, and it is as simple to unite under a flag.
...indeed i ask, who treats the Flag of Cyprus as a rag; ask yourselves.
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