Cyprus is a non-sinking aircraft carrier
"Whoever controls Cyprus controls the world" , Gen.TOLON
so... is it the supermilitarisation of Cyprus?
What was that movie?..."Fail Safe", made in the '60's, I think. Have you seen it? Couldn't the little island be Cyprus?
Turkey and USA are allies, both are or have been responsible for "illegal" aggression, (art.2; UN chart.), against other Nations, in war. Israel and Turkey, receive the brunt of America's military largesse, through funding. America and Britain, to a lesser degree, fund their enemies.
Turkey: "Little America", I think so. "Regional Peace Keeper", only a wish; without the recognition that Cyprus is a Sovereign State, with a people.
Either these Supra-Powers, enjoy a state of security that is unstable, or the matter is solved by agreement where all people acknowledge, their needs are met, and in cooperation there is progress, toward their betterment.
The island, therefore, cannot be de-militarised in the foreseeable future. Cypriots, at best, can have a say on how the military is configured, in cooperation with the other interlocutors.
Regional security is obtained with an agreement between Turkey and Cyprus, an alliance which would form a counterbalance to the demands from NATO, Britain and Greece.
In the simplest terms, Treaty of Defense= recognition Republic of Cyprus.
Accepting, and perhaps marketing our strategic position, in this manner we are providing an "Off-shore" service to other States, for our Neutrality, and Good Governance, toward their needs, which serves our purpose, for safety and Independence, as well.
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Cyprus: three goverments, One capital and Free.
Friday, March 31, 2006
Thursday, March 30, 2006
'The Cypriot'
Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : 'The Cypriot'
Please, read this novel approach. I am truly enjoying it.
Please, read this novel approach. I am truly enjoying it.
Thursday, March 23, 2006
Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : Just let refugees stay where they are
Talk Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : Just let refugees stay where they are:
"It is the issue of heritage, as you say, it is sold to us and we buy it as a commodity, with the power to change it's substance, our good governance, and our free will, is what we desire, as a product.
I don't know if someone will disagree with me, but I think our respect toward the displaced and to the dead, requires a settlement that demonstrates our best intentions as people.
I believe the repopulation of the island is feasable. We can create municipllities and suburbs which when placed island wide, provide for the character of one community or the other, as a majority, within these townships, serviced by their own comunity, like Cantons, they would essentially cover the two communal states.
More of the displaced will be able to return as communities, in an organised fashion, others will want to go to create roots in new settlements, as well as resettleing territory lost in the 60's.
Whatever the solution, with free movement, there will be minorities, in either territory, who will want recognition, using this to their advantage, in either state, when governments are split evenly.
Whatever the result, the needs of Cypriots are far more complex, as no solution has been found, and the adversarial system we have, has required our patience for so long.
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Cyprus: three goverments, One capital and Free"
"It is the issue of heritage, as you say, it is sold to us and we buy it as a commodity, with the power to change it's substance, our good governance, and our free will, is what we desire, as a product.
I don't know if someone will disagree with me, but I think our respect toward the displaced and to the dead, requires a settlement that demonstrates our best intentions as people.
I believe the repopulation of the island is feasable. We can create municipllities and suburbs which when placed island wide, provide for the character of one community or the other, as a majority, within these townships, serviced by their own comunity, like Cantons, they would essentially cover the two communal states.
More of the displaced will be able to return as communities, in an organised fashion, others will want to go to create roots in new settlements, as well as resettleing territory lost in the 60's.
Whatever the solution, with free movement, there will be minorities, in either territory, who will want recognition, using this to their advantage, in either state, when governments are split evenly.
Whatever the result, the needs of Cypriots are far more complex, as no solution has been found, and the adversarial system we have, has required our patience for so long.
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Cyprus: three goverments, One capital and Free"
Sunday, March 19, 2006
Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : CYPRUS-TURKEY TREATY OF DEFENSE
Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : CYPRUS-TURKEY TREATY OF DEFENSE
Consider, Turkey needs from Cyprus, more than anything, its own military presence on the island for its own defence.
As a partner, in defense, it would be obliged to protect the interest of the Cypriot Maritime, over its own frontier. It must hold the number of troops to a specified number, but neither can any number of troops, stationed on the island change, without its consent. Essentially, both Cyprus and Turkey benefit from better security, with the island's de-militarisation, and the PR that Turkey will gain worldwide will far outweigh the loss of having to recognise a state called the Republic of Cyprus, which is no longer divided, a Human Rights achievement held in high esteem, because the RoR is respected, in a manner which repopulates the entire island suitably, a vision to create even greater prosperity, with consideration toward those affected.
Alot of if's, but the impasse ends when there is recognition of what already is recognised by the rest of the world, the Republic of Cyprus, with its reformation. Turkey can keep the island divided but it cannot escape its responsibilities toward the Rule of Law, in or out of the EU.
Consider, Turkey needs from Cyprus, more than anything, its own military presence on the island for its own defence.
As a partner, in defense, it would be obliged to protect the interest of the Cypriot Maritime, over its own frontier. It must hold the number of troops to a specified number, but neither can any number of troops, stationed on the island change, without its consent. Essentially, both Cyprus and Turkey benefit from better security, with the island's de-militarisation, and the PR that Turkey will gain worldwide will far outweigh the loss of having to recognise a state called the Republic of Cyprus, which is no longer divided, a Human Rights achievement held in high esteem, because the RoR is respected, in a manner which repopulates the entire island suitably, a vision to create even greater prosperity, with consideration toward those affected.
Alot of if's, but the impasse ends when there is recognition of what already is recognised by the rest of the world, the Republic of Cyprus, with its reformation. Turkey can keep the island divided but it cannot escape its responsibilities toward the Rule of Law, in or out of the EU.
Friday, March 17, 2006
Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : Minority Status for Turkish Cypriot
Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : Minority Status for Turkish Cypriot
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:50 am Post subject:
Having read the thread again, I find the idea of minority status interesting, although I never thought that it had any advantage. Still, it is a hard sell.
People want self-determination anywhere. Nations which are forthcoming in this vain, are stronger, show their tolerance and are inclusive, addressing an important need. In our context, a bureaucracy, and a government, has been formed, which potentially provides an easy solution to the problems specifically in Cyprus, the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus"; if the Greek community accepts to create a government which is equal to it.
The "Republic of Cyprus" needs to evolve, free from ethnic, or communal priorities. It is our identity, as a people to the EU, and to the rest of the world. A Greek community can have its minority, as the Turkish majority will convey to its minority, rights, but our central government, should be superior, with the ability to protect all the citizens equally, without compromise as individuals.
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:50 am Post subject:
Having read the thread again, I find the idea of minority status interesting, although I never thought that it had any advantage. Still, it is a hard sell.
People want self-determination anywhere. Nations which are forthcoming in this vain, are stronger, show their tolerance and are inclusive, addressing an important need. In our context, a bureaucracy, and a government, has been formed, which potentially provides an easy solution to the problems specifically in Cyprus, the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus"; if the Greek community accepts to create a government which is equal to it.
The "Republic of Cyprus" needs to evolve, free from ethnic, or communal priorities. It is our identity, as a people to the EU, and to the rest of the world. A Greek community can have its minority, as the Turkish majority will convey to its minority, rights, but our central government, should be superior, with the ability to protect all the citizens equally, without compromise as individuals.
Monday, March 13, 2006
Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : GNOSIS:Heading toward a new political frontier
Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : GNOSIS:Heading toward a new political frontier
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:37 am Post subject: GNOSIS:Heading toward a new political frontier
Greetings, fellow witnesses, and welcome to the foundation of a new political movement in Cyprus. My name, you all know, and I come to you as the gatekeeper, your humble servant. Ask me a question and the answer will be found, together. Imagine a world, and I will seek better, until there is nothing left, one choice, where we are free. I know only one thing for sure: that there are cycles far greater than my understanding, and from what I can reason, we return, from where we came, born on this planet, and to die; well, at best. If you are like minded, and you understand the first philosophical premise of mankind, then I ask you to support me, and to join me. If you do not, please ask me a question.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:37 am Post subject: GNOSIS:Heading toward a new political frontier
Greetings, fellow witnesses, and welcome to the foundation of a new political movement in Cyprus. My name, you all know, and I come to you as the gatekeeper, your humble servant. Ask me a question and the answer will be found, together. Imagine a world, and I will seek better, until there is nothing left, one choice, where we are free. I know only one thing for sure: that there are cycles far greater than my understanding, and from what I can reason, we return, from where we came, born on this planet, and to die; well, at best. If you are like minded, and you understand the first philosophical premise of mankind, then I ask you to support me, and to join me. If you do not, please ask me a question.
Sunday, March 12, 2006
Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : Do You Think That Eventually Cyprus Will Reunite?
Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : Do You Think That Eventually Cyprus Will Reunite?
I will vote that Cyprus unites, and I was unsure before reading the thread. The point being, that our geographic location, its strategic importance to Europe, is absolute, and the EU will realize, as well, how important it is to have Cyprus as a partner, when Turkey, signifys a contrary intent, in its own affairs.
I will vote that Cyprus unites, and I was unsure before reading the thread. The point being, that our geographic location, its strategic importance to Europe, is absolute, and the EU will realize, as well, how important it is to have Cyprus as a partner, when Turkey, signifys a contrary intent, in its own affairs.
Saturday, March 04, 2006
Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : I Have Found the Best Solution to Cyprus problem:At Last!
Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : I Have Found the Best Solution to Cyprus problem:At Last!:
"Xenos, what does this have to do with anyone else on the forum, and I am surprised, from a gentleman like you. Kefias said something Honourable, what's your problem, why can't it sit, call him a liar if he offends, but give us a reason to think better of thread at hand. Thanks
Greece and Turkey should allocate land on their beachfronts for these expats, since their support is our misery, this should be the consequence.
Respectfully, I ask you, Mr. K, you are a Cypriot, do you prefer, Cypriot, or is Greek Cypriot, or Cypriot of Greek origin, more suitable. Just to be clear, since so many have stated the same.
Personally I like 5 flags, and with the EU makes six. I want a Quartier which is wildly Turkish, way down south in Paphos. I want the town of Komi Kebir to be Greek speaking. This way I am Cypriot, and Grecophone, equal member in the European Union.
I still say that Greeks of Cypriot origin, or Turks of Cypriot origin, as well as Cypriots need one identity, inviolate, sovereign, and supreme, to protect their rights, in one government.
That Government already exists, but ethnicity is not used as a balance, equally represented, and bi-communal. It is clear, the Greek speaking community lacks a level of government, and they need their own flag, without representation equal to their counterpart, the Republic cannot occupy its efforts toward protecting the rights of all its citizens, as well as the governance we need as one people, ie cash, passport, health card, etc.
Then it is heartening, we agree, Cyprus is something all of us can be proud of, Cypriots are from Cyprus.
Can Cypriots be heard?"
"Xenos, what does this have to do with anyone else on the forum, and I am surprised, from a gentleman like you. Kefias said something Honourable, what's your problem, why can't it sit, call him a liar if he offends, but give us a reason to think better of thread at hand. Thanks
Greece and Turkey should allocate land on their beachfronts for these expats, since their support is our misery, this should be the consequence.
Respectfully, I ask you, Mr. K, you are a Cypriot, do you prefer, Cypriot, or is Greek Cypriot, or Cypriot of Greek origin, more suitable. Just to be clear, since so many have stated the same.
Personally I like 5 flags, and with the EU makes six. I want a Quartier which is wildly Turkish, way down south in Paphos. I want the town of Komi Kebir to be Greek speaking. This way I am Cypriot, and Grecophone, equal member in the European Union.
I still say that Greeks of Cypriot origin, or Turks of Cypriot origin, as well as Cypriots need one identity, inviolate, sovereign, and supreme, to protect their rights, in one government.
That Government already exists, but ethnicity is not used as a balance, equally represented, and bi-communal. It is clear, the Greek speaking community lacks a level of government, and they need their own flag, without representation equal to their counterpart, the Republic cannot occupy its efforts toward protecting the rights of all its citizens, as well as the governance we need as one people, ie cash, passport, health card, etc.
Then it is heartening, we agree, Cyprus is something all of us can be proud of, Cypriots are from Cyprus.
Can Cypriots be heard?"
Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : British Bases/1974
Cyprus bicommunal discussion and chat forum : British Bases/1974
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject:
I beleive we all know the expression, "unsinkable aircaft carrier". All of us, I believe, know that the interests of all the interlocutors, then, as it is now, are best served by a divided island, in a state, where the island dwellers stay divided, to represent not each other, but only their own interests.
Cypriots, a people who have survived millenia, did not survive the wrong, originally thwarted by Makarios with his change of view, and the resulting, realisation of the Republic of Cyprus in 1960, a sovereign state representing all its citizens.
Hmm.. Moose, you raise an interesting point, Turkey and Greece, as well as England signed that Constitution as well. Therefore, having learned that there is a value to all people in protecting their Patrimony, I suggest that this Constitution is more blantantly disregarded than respected because the natural inclination to show a bias for selfish reasons, still outways the more important, and more challenging principal of respect for our Human Rights, as a Family of Man, with acts for its betterment.
Who is the victim, ourselves, evey single person on this planet, if we allow Cypriots to be forgotten, by ignoring their peaceful existence, before thay were divided to suit the needs of other National entities, into Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots, rather than Cypriots who are Turcophone or Grecophone, with different needs, but sharing the same principals, that all people share everywhere equally.
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject:
I beleive we all know the expression, "unsinkable aircaft carrier". All of us, I believe, know that the interests of all the interlocutors, then, as it is now, are best served by a divided island, in a state, where the island dwellers stay divided, to represent not each other, but only their own interests.
Cypriots, a people who have survived millenia, did not survive the wrong, originally thwarted by Makarios with his change of view, and the resulting, realisation of the Republic of Cyprus in 1960, a sovereign state representing all its citizens.
Hmm.. Moose, you raise an interesting point, Turkey and Greece, as well as England signed that Constitution as well. Therefore, having learned that there is a value to all people in protecting their Patrimony, I suggest that this Constitution is more blantantly disregarded than respected because the natural inclination to show a bias for selfish reasons, still outways the more important, and more challenging principal of respect for our Human Rights, as a Family of Man, with acts for its betterment.
Who is the victim, ourselves, evey single person on this planet, if we allow Cypriots to be forgotten, by ignoring their peaceful existence, before thay were divided to suit the needs of other National entities, into Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots, rather than Cypriots who are Turcophone or Grecophone, with different needs, but sharing the same principals, that all people share everywhere equally.
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