Cyprus :: Why is Cyprus Divided? - Page 3
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...Cyprus is divided because Turkey believes that it is property; the people are of no consequence. This they believe is a well founded fact based on the Principal of Law (before the Modern Age) when Cyprus was made English, thus she does not recognise the validity of the Treaty of Lausanne. The British of course demonstrate their Sovereignty as well, by example their rush to express this fact at Curium.
...Cypriots are divided by their mythic personas, reality will set in soon, we are passed the Modern Age.
...Cyprus is divided because of its geographic location. in an effort to continue the plunder of past ages, there are these efforts to possess "it". it does not matter the divide, it could be mostly "French", and a reason would be found to divide the minority from a Cypriot people, as "English", (or "German"), there would exist a Proxy War.
...Cypriots have not grasped what Bicommunal and Bizonal could mean. They are not prepared it seems to confront their fears to lead Mankind beyond the Nation as a State, where they are a State within which there are Nations.
Friday, April 20, 2012
Tuesday, April 10, 2012
UN chief remains interested in Cyprus solution
UN chief remains interested in Cyprus solution
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...we hope that if the effort to define the words Bizonal and Bicommunal continue, that there will be two tables where these negotiations will take place.
...one where as Constituencies the People gather to decide their self-representation as Persons within National Assemblies, so that amongst them they can Charter Territorial Jurisdictions for their electorate from the State.
...and at the other, a Federal Government which has no other obligation but to defend its Citizens without discrimination, equal and as Individuals.
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...we hope that if the effort to define the words Bizonal and Bicommunal continue, that there will be two tables where these negotiations will take place.
...one where as Constituencies the People gather to decide their self-representation as Persons within National Assemblies, so that amongst them they can Charter Territorial Jurisdictions for their electorate from the State.
...and at the other, a Federal Government which has no other obligation but to defend its Citizens without discrimination, equal and as Individuals.
Sunday, April 08, 2012
Cyprus Now Forum • View topic - The biggest insult to Cyprus...
Cyprus Now Forum • View topic - The biggest insult to Cyprus...
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...once again this summer we will face the scorn that Turkey holds for the Cypriot social-economy. what will she do when another success of Cyprus as a State is demonstrated, we'll see. given that Erdogan has explictly stated that partition (read:annexation) is his goal, that 'fait accompli' is looming. why?
...is Turkey's plaint to be respected? is Cyprus, Property she reclaims?
...and what about the people? aren't they "Greeks" and "Turks"; in the thousands of years of this island's History, when were they a People?
...the insult is to Mankind, and to the Modern Age, (lol) never mind the Cypriots.
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...once again this summer we will face the scorn that Turkey holds for the Cypriot social-economy. what will she do when another success of Cyprus as a State is demonstrated, we'll see. given that Erdogan has explictly stated that partition (read:annexation) is his goal, that 'fait accompli' is looming. why?
...is Turkey's plaint to be respected? is Cyprus, Property she reclaims?
...and what about the people? aren't they "Greeks" and "Turks"; in the thousands of years of this island's History, when were they a People?
...the insult is to Mankind, and to the Modern Age, (lol) never mind the Cypriots.
Thursday, April 05, 2012
Cyprus :: What would Enosis mean to the average Cypriot - Page 2#p712162
Cyprus :: What would Enosis mean to the average Cypriot - Page 2#p712162
Schnauzer wrote:
...well said Schnauzer, thank-you.
...if we ignore the choice of Cypriots for a Union with Greece because it is a Greek island, it can only be a benefit to Mankind as a whole if these People are Sovereign to represent themselves, and to remain as the Stewards of their Heritance. by dividing it (and them) in two, as adversaries, that Green Line which started there and grew will again fester with so much harm.
...as Imperialists Greece looks harmless, as the great Majority in Cyprus are subject to its Language. Turkey, on the other hand is stuck with the Treaty of Lausanne as an unfair loss of Property, and to her what comes next is of no consequence. England still insists on Sovereign Rights, and she too (i regret to say) remains a failed Guarantor.
...as Cypriots, a great deal is asked of the people who are its dwellers; not "Greeks" but Greeks, not "Turks" but Turks (maybe Maronites, and Armenians, etc. too), defining Bicommunal and Bizonal so that it can be emulated throughout the world being held in such high esteem.
...it is about time that enosis means the mending of one what is apart, only in a Modern, very Cypriot kind of way.
Freedom for Cyprus, Freedom for Cypriots too!
Schnauzer wrote:
I think much would depend upon the determination of just how one would describe an 'Average Cypriot'.
Currently, it is a matter of whom the one who considers him/herself to be 'Greek Cypriot' and the one who considers him/herself to be 'Turkish Cypriot' feels more closely affiliated to, Greece or Turkey?.
Naturally (again currently) the unfortunate 'Political and Military' division that has been foisted upon the people of Cyprus, is bound to create a situation which renders the question posed almost impossible to answer.
Leaving aside the questions of 'Fairness' and 'Unfairness', the ONLY outcome of such a union, MUST result in another 'Springboard' for the 'Average Cypriot' to launch further abusive verbal attacks upon each other.
That is how 'Politics' works, ultimately the desires of the 'Average Cypriot' is of no consequence to either the 'Military or Political' leaders, therefore 'NOTHING' is what 'Enosis' might mean, actually it has always been like that for the 'Average Cypriot'. (imho)
...well said Schnauzer, thank-you.
...if we ignore the choice of Cypriots for a Union with Greece because it is a Greek island, it can only be a benefit to Mankind as a whole if these People are Sovereign to represent themselves, and to remain as the Stewards of their Heritance. by dividing it (and them) in two, as adversaries, that Green Line which started there and grew will again fester with so much harm.
...as Imperialists Greece looks harmless, as the great Majority in Cyprus are subject to its Language. Turkey, on the other hand is stuck with the Treaty of Lausanne as an unfair loss of Property, and to her what comes next is of no consequence. England still insists on Sovereign Rights, and she too (i regret to say) remains a failed Guarantor.
...as Cypriots, a great deal is asked of the people who are its dwellers; not "Greeks" but Greeks, not "Turks" but Turks (maybe Maronites, and Armenians, etc. too), defining Bicommunal and Bizonal so that it can be emulated throughout the world being held in such high esteem.
...it is about time that enosis means the mending of one what is apart, only in a Modern, very Cypriot kind of way.
Freedom for Cyprus, Freedom for Cypriots too!
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