Cyprus :: From 300 t0 3900 ............ - Page 3
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Cypriotism, is not dead as you say, that is your opinion speaking as a "Turk". i suggest, what is dead is Turkey's push to identify the Problem as one between Turks and Greeks (Turkey and Greece). with the creation of the EU, and the membership of Cyprus within it, forces are naturally evolving for these acts to be demonstrated with the creation of one Cyprus, finally Free and Sovereign, rather than a piece of real-estate torn in two.
...vp, i am fighting for survival, i never chose any of them, i always understood that these forms of expression have within them an Ignorance i must hate, (does that make me less "Greek", or more "Turkish"?), and i am old enough to remember Cyprus before Turkey chose to plunder what belongs to civil people. this is wrong, if you are Turkish, rather than within a deeper state of "Turkishness", because it is not Human. you fear "Greeks", (so do i) and you choose to be as a "Turk" against them. yet, you, in effect, choose to deny the world is changing around you hatefully, not even selectively, resisting changes to the dogma you follow, blindly. i choose Love to better myself.
it is not so simple, Cyprus, and Cypriots, exist.
...what is becoming clear to me is that the effort Turkey has placed in her external affairs for fifty years, culminated with the Annan Plan, and it failed. the notion of "Turks" and "Greeks" is over, Cyprus this time has a chance to express Cypriotness, a notion that Cyprus is equal to Turkey, and that in Turkey it could happen that they too would reform, so that Liberty is defined, as Free Countries, Bizonal and Bicommunal, for their Citizens without discrimination or distinction, and for their Identities as Persons as well.
Friday, February 22, 2013
Re: The "police" and Torture Regime of "TRNC"
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus39899-30.html#p745940
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...Lordo, did it cross your mind that Cypriots, the "Greeks" did not fight because they too, did not support the coup. that trust was betrayed by Turkey, with the actions which followed. if anything, imagine the possibility of double Enosis, had the coup been supported, and consider Cypriots completely ignored by these adversaries, given that the idea of tearing the island in two originally, was not Cypriot, but foreign.
...war is the answer, to feed a hatred. it is good, because through it there are powerful forces which can be realised. Lest We Forget. why not choose real enemies Lordo, have you learned? i am Greek, and i suppose if i was German i'd be just as proud, why speak for "Turks", if you are Cypriot, and Turkish, let them speak for themselves. act accordingly.
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...Lordo, did it cross your mind that Cypriots, the "Greeks" did not fight because they too, did not support the coup. that trust was betrayed by Turkey, with the actions which followed. if anything, imagine the possibility of double Enosis, had the coup been supported, and consider Cypriots completely ignored by these adversaries, given that the idea of tearing the island in two originally, was not Cypriot, but foreign.
...war is the answer, to feed a hatred. it is good, because through it there are powerful forces which can be realised. Lest We Forget. why not choose real enemies Lordo, have you learned? i am Greek, and i suppose if i was German i'd be just as proud, why speak for "Turks", if you are Cypriot, and Turkish, let them speak for themselves. act accordingly.
Thursday, February 14, 2013
Cyprus :: a private investigation...Cyprus Bailout.
Cyprus :: a private investigation...Cyprus Bailout.
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...i'll say that Cyprus will come out stronger for this, although it is a witch hunt. those Germans who are in such a rush to demean what seems like a puny economy to save a buck are mistaken, and should be well advised to consider the credibility they represent, when what comes around, goes around.
...it is the perfect opportunity for the EU to bone-up, by demonstrating solidarity. and should the investigation find some crime, which it would in any State, to treat the Criminal, if it is made public, without exploiting what shame it brings as guilt by association to the Rule of Law. without Grace, such action, at this point, when France or Italy falters, or Spain, will be too late. Europe will be the sham.
let's not forget that Cyprus has been a net contributor to Europe so far. it leads with great esteem, as a Maritime, Trading, and/or Financial partner, Internationally. never mind how socialised it is, or that strategically, it is the gateway Europeans have to two other Continents. it was nothing more than a backwater, for about 350 years, under Ottoman occupation. it fared better under British rule, but it was only in 1960 that these people finally provided for themselves for the first time as this island's dwellers, asphalt roads, and a drinking water system, which they did not have before.
imagine, a People thousands of years old existing under subjugation, and suddenly Free; the Cypriots, i think have demonstrated Heroic efforts toward improving themselves since then, and with a Tolerance exemplary given that 1/3 of its population can be defined as displaced, since 1974, and for the first time torn in two, as History states by an, Illegal, occupation where only Turkey refuses to recognise simple Universal Principals, and thus, where Cypriots are not defined as those who Love Cyprus, but, as in some Proxy War: as "Greeks", and "Turks".
Europe cannot ignore the huge potential that Cyprus represents. it's relations with many other neighbours is hopeful, what with the anticipated wealth that can be found within the management together, of their natural resources.
...just because things can go "boom", should we be playing with them; maybe private is good if it is kept private: already there are many fires.
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...i'll say that Cyprus will come out stronger for this, although it is a witch hunt. those Germans who are in such a rush to demean what seems like a puny economy to save a buck are mistaken, and should be well advised to consider the credibility they represent, when what comes around, goes around.
...it is the perfect opportunity for the EU to bone-up, by demonstrating solidarity. and should the investigation find some crime, which it would in any State, to treat the Criminal, if it is made public, without exploiting what shame it brings as guilt by association to the Rule of Law. without Grace, such action, at this point, when France or Italy falters, or Spain, will be too late. Europe will be the sham.
let's not forget that Cyprus has been a net contributor to Europe so far. it leads with great esteem, as a Maritime, Trading, and/or Financial partner, Internationally. never mind how socialised it is, or that strategically, it is the gateway Europeans have to two other Continents. it was nothing more than a backwater, for about 350 years, under Ottoman occupation. it fared better under British rule, but it was only in 1960 that these people finally provided for themselves for the first time as this island's dwellers, asphalt roads, and a drinking water system, which they did not have before.
imagine, a People thousands of years old existing under subjugation, and suddenly Free; the Cypriots, i think have demonstrated Heroic efforts toward improving themselves since then, and with a Tolerance exemplary given that 1/3 of its population can be defined as displaced, since 1974, and for the first time torn in two, as History states by an, Illegal, occupation where only Turkey refuses to recognise simple Universal Principals, and thus, where Cypriots are not defined as those who Love Cyprus, but, as in some Proxy War: as "Greeks", and "Turks".
Europe cannot ignore the huge potential that Cyprus represents. it's relations with many other neighbours is hopeful, what with the anticipated wealth that can be found within the management together, of their natural resources.
...just because things can go "boom", should we be playing with them; maybe private is good if it is kept private: already there are many fires.
Monday, February 04, 2013
Cyprus :: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...??? - Page 5
Cyprus :: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...??? - Page 5
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...you are mistaken, vp. we are all looking forward to a Turkey which is positive, and an International leader, because it is so powerful. when it comes to the betterment of the Human condition, here is another opportunity. we regret, that in the past Turkey's efforts only caused the stagnation to continue, and in a manner where fear does not cease, neither the efforts put to hatred. as "Turkishness" goes, without Charity and Grace there is no profit, their fellow Men have only their own Hope for guidance, this leadership tarnishes themselves. ...perhaps a little effort on your part, Lordo, would be useful, can your engineer friend provide us with facts, where we (the readership) can decide for ourselves? question becomes, are you Cypriot? do you love this island? what is best (not just for "Turks")?
...allow me to be wrong, but i still think blimps are a better idea, as something new, pipelines we (Mankind) have, heavy lifting by air (over long distances and at sea) is limited.
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...you are mistaken, vp. we are all looking forward to a Turkey which is positive, and an International leader, because it is so powerful. when it comes to the betterment of the Human condition, here is another opportunity. we regret, that in the past Turkey's efforts only caused the stagnation to continue, and in a manner where fear does not cease, neither the efforts put to hatred. as "Turkishness" goes, without Charity and Grace there is no profit, their fellow Men have only their own Hope for guidance, this leadership tarnishes themselves. ...perhaps a little effort on your part, Lordo, would be useful, can your engineer friend provide us with facts, where we (the readership) can decide for ourselves? question becomes, are you Cypriot? do you love this island? what is best (not just for "Turks")?
...allow me to be wrong, but i still think blimps are a better idea, as something new, pipelines we (Mankind) have, heavy lifting by air (over long distances and at sea) is limited.
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