Christofias: no solution without unity

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"That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status."

...so much we know: a federal government, a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state; count them, three.

Should we accept that Bicommunal means Unity as Individuals, (equals as such without distinction, as a State), while as Persons we sustain in two (or more) National Assemblies an identity as Majorities (who recognise and respect the special needs of the minorities amongst them)?

This infrastructure can be provided island wide if "enclaves" were introduced to the political geography of today, spotting the whole island, so that it would be possible to return at least some of the displaced as they were forced to leave, as communities; this would be Bizonal: a State Sovereign, and territorial Jurisdictions.

No, we cannot let Turkey retain control of an agenda which divides us as "Greeks" and "Turks" because our responsibilities are to the greater Family of Mankind and the Universal Principals which as Humans, as Cypriots, we seek to better.

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Bananiot wrote:
Halil, I long for the day when both communities can find the strength to apologise to each other for all the misery each one caused to the other during those bloody years that eventually shaped events in Cyprus and brought our country to the brink of partition.

One of the reasons I support fraternity and peace is the fact that another round of hostilities will still not solve our problem. Simply, it will prepare the ground for the next round. The more the rounds the more the dead. The Minotaur of blood can never quash his thirst for blood and more blood.

If we are clever we should not fall for the war cries of the sick nationalists who have the interest of the Minotaur at heart. The majority of Cypriots are good people and if they set the sights on peace, we can get there. Together, brothers in arms, for the happy future of Cyprus. There is enough room for all of us and we have so much to learn from each other and also teach the mother countries!

Thank-you Mr B., well, well said...

...indeed, our commitment is to Humanity in essence. When we define our freedom by Principals that are Universal, defining them in a way which is Bicommunal (and now Bizonal) for this larger Family to emulate, like "Greek"/"Turk", this fear overcome, so too for others.

...if we find a definition for Bizonal, which does not tear this island in two (like it is today), and a solution which is Bicommunal (meaning there is a State and additionally, beyond our Individuality, particular, equal, National representations for People as Persons), minorities will have to be respected and recognised as having special needs reciprocally.

...what is wrong with the thinking that Bicommunal can mean anything other than two, knowing one is not enough and many is more expensive to taxpayers, why not choose to build on the potential because the EU opens doors, mobility both ways, so too the hope of Peace in the Middle East, and with our closest neighbour, or an end to the scourge in Africa, our population grows, our demographics as a population changes; but what am i dreaming, Cyprus is a desert in forty years, what me worry?

cheers, http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=31695

Turkish Envoy Causes...

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...i would ask Mr. Tezcan if in Turkey, there are examples of this "Integration" he suggests is lacking toward Immigrants in Europe.

...he should do well learning that there exists identities of Persons, but that in Modern States, as Individuals the People stand united for a Greatness that goes beyond their Nations.

in my humble opinion Ataturk rumbles in his grave, with what Kemalists are doing. it is a stagnation of thought that has left them divided, unstable, looking eastward without a western face

Why Multiculturalism Doesn't Work

...yup, mobility.

welcome to the Human race.

sorry arse, get used to the cold wind
we'rd would blow, tain't Kansas anymore.

English. do you know there is an ethnosphere?
nearly extinct, and more devastating; ecosphere (lol)
and yet, not being constructive, playful, no society
here, is embracing the Information Age with their efforts
for language, their language more transparent to many.

there is the melting pot, and mosaics, choose
your giving, welcoming the rest of the world
and engineer what is in science, right. not "Greek"
not "Turkish" if we
resist the fear, we do not forget the reason
men (and women) die, that there are greater
enemies amongst ourselves.

we are lucky, being
bicommunal, but we haven't figured what it means
what when we embrace the future imagine
arab greekcypriots, jewish turkishcypriot; what's
wrong with that? what's wrong with arab turkishcypriots, and jewish greekcypriots? think three, or four thousand
years ago, think not so long ago. we survive
because we are facilitators for three continents'
social exchange; this is Cypriot.

no need to bore you, but read my manifesto.

cheers!

Todays visit to Famagusta-very depressing.....

...my family stayed because they believed in their neighbours, many, my uncles and cousins disappeared, but that does not diminish my love for those who love as well, only the murderers that they have to live with, now, who chose this opportunity to plunder.

...and, i know that we are still friends (even with the gates closed we found ways to communicate), close to our village, our customs, and our land.

we were not "greeks"or "turks", we were farmers, we sustained ourselves, respectful and giving people, a "mixed" village according to the subjugators who came and went.

indeed, politics was a world away, even with modern devices, we did not stray, and to this day we do not forget; it is unfortunate that turkey is no stranger to denial, even the treaty of lausanne, i believe. cash has no value without Justice, i root for the displaced who like myself choose to deny the privelage of either side to dismiss the acts which left us victims. things can't go back to the way they were, facts on the ground, things cannot stay the same, but for some at least, like the citizens of Famagusta, we ask to return as communities. you don't like greeks bir, if they are like the turks i don't like then we don't like the same people, i'd bet.

...you don't even have to be cypriot to feel that way. and most importantly the Constitution for our State, should respect these Human Values, this basically is what cannot be refused. Within a Unitary State, two National Assemblies which have as components a number of constituencies: that's BBF.

cheers!

...oh and, please read my manifesto.

(thanks.)