http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus42052-40.html#p801126
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...thank-you bill.
these two Cypriots are heroes, in my mind. all Cypriots should be more like them.
here is where the compulsion to call the Flag of Cyprus, "Greek", may stop, because it is neither "Greek", or "Turkish". here are two people who state the obvious, they are as Persons, Turkish Cypriots indeed, they are Cypriots above all, as Individuals, not "Turkish"; what is wrong with that? if there is Justice to be seen, this fact will be clear, Cyprus exists, Cypriots exist, we are not appendages to the land like property, we are not here to serve the mythic reality of one regime against another, we are here on this island as its stewards, and as Human beings, we have this Freedom to express our loving nature, toward it. as it is, a dismissal of the charges is more likely, yet i imagine that the regime will not have the good sense to drop the issue, (as the Judge should have, the second or the third time around,) they don't have the will to defend Individual Rights, or to see their constituency as anything more than Persons, it will be delayed, again.
...thank-you, Koray Basdogrultmaci and Cinel Senem Husseyin, courage.
observation,comments,dialog,history: CYPRUS; UN mitigation against foreign beligerance wanes, risking cultural extinction. my militancy for this Heritance.
Thursday, December 04, 2014
Thursday, November 20, 2014
Cyprus, a Turkey political hostage: Analyst
http://en.mehrnews.com/detail/News/104725
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...much ado about nothing. After all, according to Turkey's leadership, Cyprus does not exist. Or, like the Alevis, and the Kurds, in Turkey, they are Foreign Affairs, not "Turkish". I ask, what does the Flag of Turkey represent, that it is any different to the Flag of Cyprus? If the regime in the north of Cyprus was Cypriot, Cypriots would not be forbidden to fly their flag there. If the Republic of Turkey wants to solve the Problem instantly, they can recognise this fact.
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...much ado about nothing. After all, according to Turkey's leadership, Cyprus does not exist. Or, like the Alevis, and the Kurds, in Turkey, they are Foreign Affairs, not "Turkish". I ask, what does the Flag of Turkey represent, that it is any different to the Flag of Cyprus? If the regime in the north of Cyprus was Cypriot, Cypriots would not be forbidden to fly their flag there. If the Republic of Turkey wants to solve the Problem instantly, they can recognise this fact.
Thursday, October 30, 2014
Eide to visit Ankara – Athens – Nicosia in November
http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/10/26/eide-to-visit-ankara-athens-nicosia-in-november/
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...i will say it again. It would be nice to see Mr. Eroglu stand beside the Flag of Cyprus when he makes demands, or when he speaks about the representation of Cypriots, Turcophone or not. The bigger pictures demands this kind of Statesmanship. As for Mr. Anastasiades, I would hope that he concurs, there is no representation of Greeks, as a Constituency, and that perhaps there should be one (these are confidence building measures); he cannot wear two hats, so to speak, the Leader of all Cypriots should have no equal (in Cyprus), and some representation as an equal to the Turkish Constituency (the Maronite, Armenian, Latin, (even the British), Constituencies) is needed. I suggest the debate as it is framed is flawed.
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That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status.
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...count them, for a BBF as is agreed to there are (at least) three governing bodies involved. Mr. Eroglu should be willing to sit down with his equal, they should expect a President to consider, in unanimity, what they say. I don't find this complicated, one Flag higher than the rest, like in Turkey, or in the UK for that matter, the difference between being a Person and being an Individual, the difference between a State, and Nations, the difference between Freedom and Liberty.
...welcome Mr. Eide.
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...i will say it again. It would be nice to see Mr. Eroglu stand beside the Flag of Cyprus when he makes demands, or when he speaks about the representation of Cypriots, Turcophone or not. The bigger pictures demands this kind of Statesmanship. As for Mr. Anastasiades, I would hope that he concurs, there is no representation of Greeks, as a Constituency, and that perhaps there should be one (these are confidence building measures); he cannot wear two hats, so to speak, the Leader of all Cypriots should have no equal (in Cyprus), and some representation as an equal to the Turkish Constituency (the Maronite, Armenian, Latin, (even the British), Constituencies) is needed. I suggest the debate as it is framed is flawed.
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That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status.
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...count them, for a BBF as is agreed to there are (at least) three governing bodies involved. Mr. Eroglu should be willing to sit down with his equal, they should expect a President to consider, in unanimity, what they say. I don't find this complicated, one Flag higher than the rest, like in Turkey, or in the UK for that matter, the difference between being a Person and being an Individual, the difference between a State, and Nations, the difference between Freedom and Liberty.
...welcome Mr. Eide.
Monday, October 13, 2014
Cyprus and Turkey Braced For New Fight Over Gas Reserves
http://blogs.wsj.com/frontiers/2014/10/10/cyprus-and-turkey-braced-for-new-fight-over-gas-reserves/tab/comments/#comment-14776
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…indeed, Turkey seems small, having to hide behind its puppet, the so called, “TRNC”. It is hard to understand that while half the population in the occupied north supports the island as an island, the other half hold the Agenda, because they feel it “belongs” to them. We can see the results of this behaviour in the south, (as well) where it is hard to ignore an elite, who having exploited these same sentiments, have lead the “Greeks” more often to ruin than once. Cyprus, and Cypriots, while ignored (and for so many years) still exist; they may be Greeks and Turkish by origin for the most part, but they are not the “Greeks”, and “Turks” we find ourselves talking about so often.
If Turkey were to recognise the existence of Cyprus, as a State, a country no different to itself, (thus acting as, its, Guarantor,) it could demand, as well, (within it) the existence of an equal to the Turkish Constituency, a Greek Constituency, now that Cyprus is in a process of Constitutional reform; but of course, Cyprus may just thrive under a BBF where the Flag of Cyprus flies higher than any of the rest, which would beg the question, why not a Turkic Constituency in Turkey?
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…indeed, Turkey seems small, having to hide behind its puppet, the so called, “TRNC”. It is hard to understand that while half the population in the occupied north supports the island as an island, the other half hold the Agenda, because they feel it “belongs” to them. We can see the results of this behaviour in the south, (as well) where it is hard to ignore an elite, who having exploited these same sentiments, have lead the “Greeks” more often to ruin than once. Cyprus, and Cypriots, while ignored (and for so many years) still exist; they may be Greeks and Turkish by origin for the most part, but they are not the “Greeks”, and “Turks” we find ourselves talking about so often.
If Turkey were to recognise the existence of Cyprus, as a State, a country no different to itself, (thus acting as, its, Guarantor,) it could demand, as well, (within it) the existence of an equal to the Turkish Constituency, a Greek Constituency, now that Cyprus is in a process of Constitutional reform; but of course, Cyprus may just thrive under a BBF where the Flag of Cyprus flies higher than any of the rest, which would beg the question, why not a Turkic Constituency in Turkey?
Wednesday, October 08, 2014
Greek Cypriots suspend peace talks after Ankara's gas research
http://www.todayszaman.com/_greek-cypriots-suspend-peace-talks-after-ankaras-gas-research_360909.html
...I recall the Turkish Flag, "seen from space", that scars a mountainside in Cyprus; says it all about "Turkishness". Why would it have been built to face the "Greeks" (of Cyprus), and not the "motherland" in gratitude?
Cyprus exists, whether Turkey wants to recognise it or not. Cypriots exist too, they are not, just "Turks", and not "Turks", they are Individuals, not just Persons. If there is to be any Justice, Turkey must act accordingly and recognise that the Flag of Cyprus flies higher, as in Turkey, it is not a "Turkish" Flag, or a "Kurdish" Flag, it represents a State where people are united in defending the Universal Principals that makes them equals (not just as Persons, but as Human beings).
...it is a good time for cooler heads to prevail, new thinking is needed; if Mr. Eroglu would be prepared to stand in front of the Flag of Cyprus, as his flag, it would not seem so unreasonable, this demand, for "his" share.
Thursday, October 02, 2014
Turkish government plays with Kurdish fire
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/security/2014/10/turkey-syria-kurds-kobane-isis-coalition-1.html?utm_source=Al-Monitor+Newsletter+%5BEnglish%5D&utm_campaign=15b8a0b861-October_2_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_28264b27a0-15b8a0b861-93108473
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...and what is wrong with a Turkey that is Bizonal, and Bicommunal? What if there existed a Republic of Turkey, and within it another level of Government where by a Territorial Jurisdiction the Constituencies which make up the Turkish People have self-representation as Persons, where they serve themselves first perhaps (to sustain their distinct identities), but with respect and recognition of the minorities that live among them; Canada comes to mind, as a successful BBF.
...if within Cyprus there would exist a Greek Constituency, (and other Constituencies equal to it) as well as a Republic, it is not unreasonable to consider the benefit a Turkic Constituency offers to Turkey, similarly.
Wednesday, October 01, 2014
are greek cypriots ready to embrace turks?
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/cyprus/T7128FN2AM6A041LP#lastPost
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...negative attitudes everywhere.
...let us try and remember that beside "Greeks", and "Turks", there exist Cypriots, who happen to be Greek and Turkish; no matter how you try to divide Cypriots, half of them have the sense to see the value of this Heritance, and the other half are trapped within their own mythic reality ("Greek"/ not "Greek", "Turk"/not "Turk").
How lucky we are, whether Greek Flags and Turkish Flags fly here, or not, there exists a flag, the Flag of Cyprus, which flies higher; i don't know about other Cypriots, but i don't forget, that.
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...negative attitudes everywhere.
...let us try and remember that beside "Greeks", and "Turks", there exist Cypriots, who happen to be Greek and Turkish; no matter how you try to divide Cypriots, half of them have the sense to see the value of this Heritance, and the other half are trapped within their own mythic reality ("Greek"/ not "Greek", "Turk"/not "Turk").
How lucky we are, whether Greek Flags and Turkish Flags fly here, or not, there exists a flag, the Flag of Cyprus, which flies higher; i don't know about other Cypriots, but i don't forget, that.
Friday, September 26, 2014
Cameron waits for MPs to OK Akrotiri launch pad
http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/09/26/cameron-waits-for-mps-to-ok-akrotiri-launch-pad/
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...in any case, it is the IS which holds the agenda. In their fierceness, they goad the rest of the world to unify against them if they dare. My hope is that we will see the day where united as Human Beings, we express our Hatred against the enemies which count, like Hunger, Disease, Disaster, Ignorance, and not against each other.
...everything takes practice, perhaps there is a silver lining, because it takes dialog to make change happen.
...and in Cyprus (better than Istanbul, I think), a new UN coordinating center, where it might be possible to see ships at port from many navies, or an airshow at Akrotiri (whether still British, NATO, or Cypriot) where pilots from around the world fly, together. Indeed Makarios may have played a significant role, then, in world politics, in an attempt to add balance to the countervailing forces at the time. Perhaps it is time to step-up again, as Cypriots, for, Universal Principals. Cyprus, and the Republic, even in its dysfunctional form has matured; having led the EU's Presidency successfully, being a Communication Hub, having a Flag flown by about one-third of the vessels at sea, most socialised, there exists a Rule of Law, and even with this Financial crisis, let's not forget, in 1960, there were no asphalt roads to connect the towns and villages island-wide, there was no infra-structure for water either.
...little Cyprus is the cross-road for three Continents.
Thursday, September 18, 2014
Re: Interview with Cyprus Gov't Spokesman
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus42508.html#p796203
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...could it be that "we" were living in relative peace until the opportunity was taken to divide us into separate identities so that as adversaries an interlocutor could add their control. could it be that it is a happy coincidence for you personally, being Turkish, that being "Turkish" has it benefits?
...does Cyprus count for anything, to you? unlike you, it seems, i can see the value of a Cyprus which secures our Freedom as Cypriots, and it is clear that we all stand to make significant social, and economic advances if as Individuals, we defend each other in a Unitary State. our identities as Persons do not have to suffer, they can thrive. but we must recognise that the Liberty we can have as Constituencies, (at another level of Government), even Bizonally, may demonstrate a priority for sustaining a distinct identity such as Greek, Turkish, Maronite, Armenian, Latin, (and English), but as Cypriots and as majorities (having control of an Agenda through self-representation as electors (and taxpayers)), that as such and with Good Will (and Good Faith) able to provide to the minorities among them respect and recognition.
...Cyprus exists, even if it is hostage to "Greeks", and "Turks" caught up in the vicious circle of their own hatred toward each other; they must overcome the fear they have within themselves. Cypriots exist, i should know being one of the displaced. it explains a lot when six were disappeared in my family, because we did not run away, we stayed; shame on the TCs as you say who have no respect for this fact. i am prepared to forgive the Individuals that committed these most hurtful acts, are you? i will not condemn all Turks as "Turks", i say, this is the Cypriot way, would you agree? i suggest to you (my friend) vp that you can better yourself with a better attitude of mind.
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...could it be that "we" were living in relative peace until the opportunity was taken to divide us into separate identities so that as adversaries an interlocutor could add their control. could it be that it is a happy coincidence for you personally, being Turkish, that being "Turkish" has it benefits?
...does Cyprus count for anything, to you? unlike you, it seems, i can see the value of a Cyprus which secures our Freedom as Cypriots, and it is clear that we all stand to make significant social, and economic advances if as Individuals, we defend each other in a Unitary State. our identities as Persons do not have to suffer, they can thrive. but we must recognise that the Liberty we can have as Constituencies, (at another level of Government), even Bizonally, may demonstrate a priority for sustaining a distinct identity such as Greek, Turkish, Maronite, Armenian, Latin, (and English), but as Cypriots and as majorities (having control of an Agenda through self-representation as electors (and taxpayers)), that as such and with Good Will (and Good Faith) able to provide to the minorities among them respect and recognition.
...Cyprus exists, even if it is hostage to "Greeks", and "Turks" caught up in the vicious circle of their own hatred toward each other; they must overcome the fear they have within themselves. Cypriots exist, i should know being one of the displaced. it explains a lot when six were disappeared in my family, because we did not run away, we stayed; shame on the TCs as you say who have no respect for this fact. i am prepared to forgive the Individuals that committed these most hurtful acts, are you? i will not condemn all Turks as "Turks", i say, this is the Cypriot way, would you agree? i suggest to you (my friend) vp that you can better yourself with a better attitude of mind.
Wednesday, September 17, 2014
European court tells Turkey to end compulsory religion course
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If Erdogan seeks to make out of Turkey, the Protector of the Islamic Faith around the world, an Equal in a balance to the Western World, he must consider how Faith has been so successfully sustained, as such; what makes the Jewish/Christian set of States so successful is their vitality, it is not mono-clonal, yet the constant remains, one God.
...isn't it enough that what is left is tiny to what it was, the diversity of a land inhabited long before there was a Turkey? It is said that Istanbul is the site of a new Caliphate, will it be enough to be a loving Person to live there? and if you are Turkish, will you have to be "Turkish" enough?
Monday, September 15, 2014
A conversation with a CyProb veteran
http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/09/14/a-conversation-with-a-cyprob-veteran/
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...indeed, it is not what is said, but who said it.
As has been not stated enough, it is that the Annan Plan represents the culmination of fifty years (or more) of Turkey's Foreign Policy. Denktash alone is cited by every SG of the UN for thirty five years straight, as being singlehandedly responsible for the delay to any Agreement. I might add, perhaps for different reasons, it was both Denktash and Papadopoulos, who pleaded with Talat to delay the referendum. The Citizens of Cyprus were expected to live with, and agree to a Plan which in parts were unclear, and in others, unread. Having lived through the disastrous result of the Zurich Agreement, something unclear, requiring the good intent of individuals as a whole, not just as Persons, it seemed (and still seems) unlikely, in my mind, to expect the vast majority of any population, never mind the "Greeks" (read: not "Turkish), to support such uncertainty.
What is clear is that not all Greeks, want to be "Greeks" (first), and it is the same for what can be called the Turkish Constituency. Cyprus exists (and let's not forget that in 1960, there was not even an infrastructure of paved roadways island-wide, let alone water works of any size). what is also very clear is that Cypriots by themselves do better with their lives than those who depend on some so-called "motherland".
Now in the Modern world, Cyprus as a State shares the same values with the EU, and the rest of the World. Free Movement, Association, and Expression are taken as Universal Principals, where, as Individuals, (as Human Beings), we can identify in this Equality, a willingness to defend each other. It does not limit our Freedom, if within these efforts there exists the Liberty of people to be Persons. but, as Persons one cannot expect Freedom denied, for "them"; this is the Problem.
...i would like to ask Mr. Hannay, if the Treaty of Lausanne was fair; in my mind, this is what the "Turks" (read: deep state, neo-Ottomans, Islamists) are on about.
...and i don't agree with a weak Federal Government because, as Cypriots, there are standards to be respected, and a Rule of Law to be applied without any form of discrimination or distinction; but i do believe, given the chance, Cypriots can sustain many Constituencies as Cypriots, where in essence, electors as Persons, meet these criteria, are closer to their tax payments, as a choice, and through self-representation, by where they reside recognised as having a Distinct Identity.
Again, i ask, where is the Greek Constituency? If there are, Constituencies, and a Republic, being Bicommunal; why not?
Saturday, September 06, 2014
No, Vladimir Putin isn’t another Adolf Hitler
http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/09/06/no-vladimir-putin-isnt-another-adolf-hitler/
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...yes, one can "hope" that Putin can do better, for the lives of the dwellers on the land he grabs, than Turkey in Cyprus.
...Putin to me represents the biggest Capitalist supporter there is, I find it strange that he did not outright buy the Crimea, and whatever else he wants. It seems to me Russia has the money, and in the end, perhaps, in his new thinking something that can be emulated, rather than as it is perceived, plunder, having created so much enmity, no different to what occurred in the past elsewhere.
...it is Humanity which is at war with its worst parts, Russia is not placing itself toward that service. Putin may still represent its good parts, or even its best qualities, because he has the power to do so. But, like all of us he must change himself in confronting his own fears. Let's face it, he is part of the 1%, (or wants to be), where the rest of us are the 99%. What of his legacy in Russia, or the "new" Capitalism he spawned, it is moments like these that are so filled with irony, where the revolution Marx predicted as inevitable could happen, when "we" realise who the "them" are, quite clearly, and act accordingly.
Sunday, July 20, 2014
Turkey's Gul: Time for a deal on Cyprus
http://www.turkeyagenda.com/turkey-s-gul-time-for-a-deal-on-cyprus-924.html
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...sadly, Mr. Gul does not get "it", if the "Turkish peace mission to aid Turkish Cypriots" was done at the expense of Greek Cypriots, because some of "them" were "Greek", rather than Greek, like the kettle which calls the pot black, it does not reflect well on Turkey. Cyprus and Cypriots exist. What with its own problems with "minorities", and with their condemnations of other States essentially not unlike their own, Turkey is not so credible if all it puts on the table are more blame and demands.
...if Mr. Gul expects "Greeks" to tear up Cyprus, he should expect "Turks" to do the same for the Kurds, Armenians, Christians, and others, who are Turkish but not Turkic, in Turkey. If Mr. Gul believes in the Bicommunal (because it is the compromise, to the Problem, that Turkey demanded and that has been accepted), (and now Bizonal), proposal for Cyprus, where there is a State, Freedom, and Individual Rights, above all, I ask where is the Greek Constituency that exists within it, an equal to other Cypriot Constituencies, that at another level of Government as Persons, gives a Turkish Constituency its relevance; where there is this equality as such, the Liberty to sustain themselves within a territorial jurisdiction as a majority which demonstrates its Goodwill to the minorities living among them. I ask why not a Turkic Constituency, (one among the few, like in Cyprus, (or Iraq)), if in Turkey one Flag would fly higher, (where there are many flags) even if as Persons distinct identities are sustained, as Individuals they would remain united toward defending Universal Principals.
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...sadly, Mr. Gul does not get "it", if the "Turkish peace mission to aid Turkish Cypriots" was done at the expense of Greek Cypriots, because some of "them" were "Greek", rather than Greek, like the kettle which calls the pot black, it does not reflect well on Turkey. Cyprus and Cypriots exist. What with its own problems with "minorities", and with their condemnations of other States essentially not unlike their own, Turkey is not so credible if all it puts on the table are more blame and demands.
...if Mr. Gul expects "Greeks" to tear up Cyprus, he should expect "Turks" to do the same for the Kurds, Armenians, Christians, and others, who are Turkish but not Turkic, in Turkey. If Mr. Gul believes in the Bicommunal (because it is the compromise, to the Problem, that Turkey demanded and that has been accepted), (and now Bizonal), proposal for Cyprus, where there is a State, Freedom, and Individual Rights, above all, I ask where is the Greek Constituency that exists within it, an equal to other Cypriot Constituencies, that at another level of Government as Persons, gives a Turkish Constituency its relevance; where there is this equality as such, the Liberty to sustain themselves within a territorial jurisdiction as a majority which demonstrates its Goodwill to the minorities living among them. I ask why not a Turkic Constituency, (one among the few, like in Cyprus, (or Iraq)), if in Turkey one Flag would fly higher, (where there are many flags) even if as Persons distinct identities are sustained, as Individuals they would remain united toward defending Universal Principals.
Saturday, July 19, 2014
We must not allow a permanent division in Cyprus
http://www.parikiaki.com/2014/07/we-must-not-allow-a-permanent-division-in-cyprus/
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my dearest Mr. President,I ask of Mr. Eroglu, even though he represents the Turkish Constituency, to stand in front of the Cypriot Flag. I expect of you to stand in front of the Cypriot Flag, too, and I am offended when Nationalism demands from you to stand under Greek Flags waving higher…
…I ask, if we are Cypriots living in a Unitary State, and being Bicommunal, able to represent Citizens not only as Individuals, but at another (state) level of government, as Persons, then, where is the Greek Constituency, so that Greeks can express themselves as Greeks, an equal (the same Liberty), in that way, to other Cypriot Constituencies, since it is the Republic (and Freedom) which needs no equal?
most respectfully,
RW
- See more at: http://www.parikiaki.com/2014/07/we-must-not-allow-a-permanent-division-in-cyprus/#sthash.ZjU4520s.dpuf
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my dearest Mr. President,I ask of Mr. Eroglu, even though he represents the Turkish Constituency, to stand in front of the Cypriot Flag. I expect of you to stand in front of the Cypriot Flag, too, and I am offended when Nationalism demands from you to stand under Greek Flags waving higher…
…I ask, if we are Cypriots living in a Unitary State, and being Bicommunal, able to represent Citizens not only as Individuals, but at another (state) level of government, as Persons, then, where is the Greek Constituency, so that Greeks can express themselves as Greeks, an equal (the same Liberty), in that way, to other Cypriot Constituencies, since it is the Republic (and Freedom) which needs no equal?
most respectfully,
RW
- See more at: http://www.parikiaki.com/2014/07/we-must-not-allow-a-permanent-division-in-cyprus/#sthash.ZjU4520s.dpuf
Thursday, July 17, 2014
Drought in Turkey: A social or a physical phenomenon?
http://www.suhakki.org/en/index.php/2014/07/drought-in-turkey-a-social-or-a-physical-phenomenon/#comment-45699
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…an interesting article, and site.
…I wonder, what with the pipeline being built to Cyprus, whether, management has been once again ignored, for the political gains of what can essentially be described as plunder (just happy, the water is there). I wonder if the consequence of damming a river in Turkey (which she shares), for this “Project of the Century”, will lead to further conflicts with neighbors.
In Cyprus one can see quite a different behavior between the two administrations on the island, sadly, it does not reflect well on Turkish policy over the years, what with the very different results we can see, there.
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…an interesting article, and site.
…I wonder, what with the pipeline being built to Cyprus, whether, management has been once again ignored, for the political gains of what can essentially be described as plunder (just happy, the water is there). I wonder if the consequence of damming a river in Turkey (which she shares), for this “Project of the Century”, will lead to further conflicts with neighbors.
In Cyprus one can see quite a different behavior between the two administrations on the island, sadly, it does not reflect well on Turkish policy over the years, what with the very different results we can see, there.
Friday, July 04, 2014
Our View: Making it up as they go along
http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/07/04/our-view-making-it-up-as-they-go-along/
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...I want to apologise, as a Cypriot, (and as a Citizen of the World) for such ignorant behaviour.
My hope is that the President will not allow this to continue, that he will send a strong message as the representative of all Cypriots, this is not the toughness one expects from such a Ministry in times as tough as these, this is going too far. You do not have to be "Greek" to be Cypriot, or even "Greek Cypriot" for that matter, "Turkish Cypriots" are not everyone else so to speak, Muslim or not.
...(Even if Cyprus supports Hellenism) As Citizens we stand together to defend the Universal Principals on which our Individual Rights are based. Cyprus, the Republic of Cyprus, has one Flag, not two three or four. As things are based right now, if anything, anyone who is not, Turkish Cypriot living in the illegally occupied territory north of the Green Line, are the so called “Greek Cypriots”, even Turkish Cypriots who declare their primary residency within the Republic, are Greek Cypriots; just take a look at the electoral roles (for the last (EU) elections), and how Citizens are are/were treated.
...and 64 years ago, why was it a mistake for these people to have been classed “Greek Cypriot”, what is it that can be identified as an improvement to their Liberty as Citizens, by the label, “Turkish Cypriot”, now; is it Mdme. Shakalli, or the Minister, who should offer their resignation?
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...I want to apologise, as a Cypriot, (and as a Citizen of the World) for such ignorant behaviour.
My hope is that the President will not allow this to continue, that he will send a strong message as the representative of all Cypriots, this is not the toughness one expects from such a Ministry in times as tough as these, this is going too far. You do not have to be "Greek" to be Cypriot, or even "Greek Cypriot" for that matter, "Turkish Cypriots" are not everyone else so to speak, Muslim or not.
...(Even if Cyprus supports Hellenism) As Citizens we stand together to defend the Universal Principals on which our Individual Rights are based. Cyprus, the Republic of Cyprus, has one Flag, not two three or four. As things are based right now, if anything, anyone who is not, Turkish Cypriot living in the illegally occupied territory north of the Green Line, are the so called “Greek Cypriots”, even Turkish Cypriots who declare their primary residency within the Republic, are Greek Cypriots; just take a look at the electoral roles (for the last (EU) elections), and how Citizens are are/were treated.
...and 64 years ago, why was it a mistake for these people to have been classed “Greek Cypriot”, what is it that can be identified as an improvement to their Liberty as Citizens, by the label, “Turkish Cypriot”, now; is it Mdme. Shakalli, or the Minister, who should offer their resignation?
Sunday, June 22, 2014
Re: Left Cyprus 50 years ago!
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus42152-120.html#p790685
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...as usual, you distort facts, vp.
in any case the EU elections are hardly a good example of "Greeks" out to suppress the rights of "Turks", except for the incompetent short-sightedness of a Bureaucracy that does not keep its registers up to date, and in affect was caught short with this unfortunate result. that it did not take any initiatives itself, toward the State, to correct this flaw, indicates a corruption over Principal, but to say that the action was organised willfully and with malice, against "you", is a lie. it was just laziness. you should know that because your regime is even worse.
your assumption on the youth and their culture, doubtless is as much a fabrication of your own desire, as it is having some truth, you cannot have a "Community" without some kind of ELAM boy hopping about on his own testosterone, you cannot Judge your youth so easily either. of course you work hard to stand up for the political existence of your "people", who ever they are though, if you are the representative of them, they are just as short-sighted. you may be Turcophone, you may be Grecophone, and you may seek to secure these distinct identities. but you must care very little, for Cyprus, if you are only willing to defend "yourself". securing this Liberty, you must be willing to defend each other's Liberty, or you must care very little for Freedom itself. without one Cyprus, I am measured as one displaced, who you would prefer would care no more. just the same, "you" have and remain nothing (and I don't have to be living on the island to tell you that), unless this fact is answered.
...the Occupation Movement comes to mind; speaking of Principal, speaking of Youth.
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...as usual, you distort facts, vp.
in any case the EU elections are hardly a good example of "Greeks" out to suppress the rights of "Turks", except for the incompetent short-sightedness of a Bureaucracy that does not keep its registers up to date, and in affect was caught short with this unfortunate result. that it did not take any initiatives itself, toward the State, to correct this flaw, indicates a corruption over Principal, but to say that the action was organised willfully and with malice, against "you", is a lie. it was just laziness. you should know that because your regime is even worse.
your assumption on the youth and their culture, doubtless is as much a fabrication of your own desire, as it is having some truth, you cannot have a "Community" without some kind of ELAM boy hopping about on his own testosterone, you cannot Judge your youth so easily either. of course you work hard to stand up for the political existence of your "people", who ever they are though, if you are the representative of them, they are just as short-sighted. you may be Turcophone, you may be Grecophone, and you may seek to secure these distinct identities. but you must care very little, for Cyprus, if you are only willing to defend "yourself". securing this Liberty, you must be willing to defend each other's Liberty, or you must care very little for Freedom itself. without one Cyprus, I am measured as one displaced, who you would prefer would care no more. just the same, "you" have and remain nothing (and I don't have to be living on the island to tell you that), unless this fact is answered.
...the Occupation Movement comes to mind; speaking of Principal, speaking of Youth.
Friday, June 06, 2014
Turkey’s intra-Islamic witch hunt
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/06/turkey-gulen-erdogan-police-judiciary-parallel-state.html?utm_source=Al-Monitor+Newsletter+%5BEnglish%5D&utm_campaign=e7043d4803-June_6_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_28264b27a0-e7043d4803-93108473
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...indeed, what can be learned is that there is one God; and for the pious, if they have Grace, to have this Humility. What can be learned, from the Great War, and the creation of the State we know as Turkey by Kemal, is that we cannot fight each other, Lest we Forget, there are bigger enemies where our Hatred can be directed to an effect we share, like against Disease, and Ignorance, or Hunger, and the affects of Disaster...
...Statesmen, great Statesmen, respect themselves as Individuals, they defend Freedom, and its betterment, even if as Persons, the Liberty they may sustain is an identity of their own, there are Principals which are Universal, they represent and fight for. A "good" Turk, like a "good" Muslim, is a loving person, with a willingness to defend the others who like them, act, accordingly.
...as Mr. Erdogan has said himself, to integrate should not mean assimilation.
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...indeed, what can be learned is that there is one God; and for the pious, if they have Grace, to have this Humility. What can be learned, from the Great War, and the creation of the State we know as Turkey by Kemal, is that we cannot fight each other, Lest we Forget, there are bigger enemies where our Hatred can be directed to an effect we share, like against Disease, and Ignorance, or Hunger, and the affects of Disaster...
...Statesmen, great Statesmen, respect themselves as Individuals, they defend Freedom, and its betterment, even if as Persons, the Liberty they may sustain is an identity of their own, there are Principals which are Universal, they represent and fight for. A "good" Turk, like a "good" Muslim, is a loving person, with a willingness to defend the others who like them, act, accordingly.
...as Mr. Erdogan has said himself, to integrate should not mean assimilation.
Friday, May 23, 2014
Cyprus urged to unlock its potential
http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/05/23/cyprus-urged-to-unlock-its-potential/
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Dear Mr. Biden,
Thank-You for your visit.
...I have learned that you are a very thoughtful man, my hope is that you have found with your visit, a reason to return. Cyprus is a crossroad, and as you say, its potential is breathtaking. Maritime, Logistic, Finance, and Communication leader, with a solid Rule of Law, Cyprus, Free, is at its advent.
Cypriots have gained a great deal of confidence from your visit, that they at least have not been forgotten, that they will not see this island torn in two, "Turkish", and "not Turkish".
...so too the families of the missing, who endure in this misery; I thank-you for that, as well.
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Dear Mr. Biden,
Thank-You for your visit.
...I have learned that you are a very thoughtful man, my hope is that you have found with your visit, a reason to return. Cyprus is a crossroad, and as you say, its potential is breathtaking. Maritime, Logistic, Finance, and Communication leader, with a solid Rule of Law, Cyprus, Free, is at its advent.
Cypriots have gained a great deal of confidence from your visit, that they at least have not been forgotten, that they will not see this island torn in two, "Turkish", and "not Turkish".
...so too the families of the missing, who endure in this misery; I thank-you for that, as well.
Thursday, May 01, 2014
‘Significant distance between the two sides’
http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/05/01/significant-distance-between-the-two-sides/
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...i ask as well, why does this man have a "Greek" flag behind him? i would only think that this is appropriate, speaking in Greece. and if it is a Constituency the flag represents (even if Greeks represent the overwhelming majority of the population), the others, Maronite, Armenians, Latins, and Turks (even the British), represent Constituencies, too.
What started so well, with an Inaugural that placed Cypriot interests above the rest, to fly the Cypriot Flag higher, it has come to this (again). I suggest the bigger challenge remains, for Leaders to take, as Statesman, but, who has the courage to state what are facts, Bicommunal, like Bizonal, define us, not as "Greeks" and "Turks", we are Human Beings as well (Lest we Forget), but as Individuals, and as Persons.
...i am afraid that the way this debate is framed, Cypriots will remain impotent toward defending each other as Cypriots, having to defend "Greekness", and "Turkishness" instead. (our duty is to Mankind, for the gift of having self-determination, and neither "motherland" in their mythic proportions, has demonstrated better skill, it seems, at that.)
...i am hoping with all the "positive spin" from the "otherside" that they have ideas that will be described as, new thinking; they too, cannot continue to wait for others to change themselves. It is obvious that we are better together than apart. It would be nice to see Mr. Eroglu demand an equal to himself, not the Republic, to negotiate with, as a Constituency, standing in front of two flags, Cypriot and that of the Constituency he represents, insisting only Cypriot Flags should fly where the Federal Government is concerned. insisting, that as equals, the Constituencies would likely be able to solve the problems amongst themselves, if there was a Greek Constituency, as a Cypriot problem which is internal, since Sovereignty, and the Rights of Individuals are secured, by the Republic (even if it is in need of reform). "they", as Persons within a Republic exercise Liberty, and, as Citizens, Individuals, and as Human beings, not only as these electorates, as voters representing Universal Principals, equal, without distinction or discrimination, elect a Federal Government that defends this Freedom.
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That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status.
...count them, there are three (at least) governing bodies in this statement.
...why not, if there is a Turkish Constituency, and a Republic, a Greek Constituency, (and others)?
Wednesday, April 30, 2014
Re: Over 20 Million Cross Cease-fire Visits
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus42021-70.html#p786568
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"the UN, EU, USA, UK, Turkey, Greece - basically everyone", are for a solution. given the plan (i assume you to mean the Annan Plan) was unread at the time of the referendum, at least that version of it, i think that is reason enough to consider a "no" vote credible, coming from voters who have the rest of their lives to live with it. what is off the table, as Mr. Kofi put it, in my mind, is fifty years of failed Foreign Policy by Turkey to realise some satisfaction from the Lease to Britain gone bad. what is left, is a solution where Turkish Cypriots are recognised as such because the vast majority of the population is willing to surrender this power (somehow).
...as a Constituency (rather than an entity demanding equality to the State) demanding Cypriot Constituencies i could support the existence of a Greek Constituency as well (Bizonally, no less), however Cyprus, the State should have no equal, and it should remain a superior to any other governance we may have within it, Sovereign having a Federal Government to represent the will of its Citizens as a body of people, United as Individuals, toward defending the Universal Principals they seek to better.
...again i ask, and why not a Greek Constituency?
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"the UN, EU, USA, UK, Turkey, Greece - basically everyone", are for a solution. given the plan (i assume you to mean the Annan Plan) was unread at the time of the referendum, at least that version of it, i think that is reason enough to consider a "no" vote credible, coming from voters who have the rest of their lives to live with it. what is off the table, as Mr. Kofi put it, in my mind, is fifty years of failed Foreign Policy by Turkey to realise some satisfaction from the Lease to Britain gone bad. what is left, is a solution where Turkish Cypriots are recognised as such because the vast majority of the population is willing to surrender this power (somehow).
...as a Constituency (rather than an entity demanding equality to the State) demanding Cypriot Constituencies i could support the existence of a Greek Constituency as well (Bizonally, no less), however Cyprus, the State should have no equal, and it should remain a superior to any other governance we may have within it, Sovereign having a Federal Government to represent the will of its Citizens as a body of people, United as Individuals, toward defending the Universal Principals they seek to better.
...again i ask, and why not a Greek Constituency?
Saturday, March 22, 2014
Re: How can TC's and GC's coexist together?
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus41840-40.html#p783240
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...and what is it, that you can do, as a Greek, let alone a Cypriot, so that the Turkish Occupiers change their intention, and leave?
It is true what you say, there is a Cypriot state; and, there is a Cypriot State. as Constituencies, there exist many, not just Turks, and non-Turks; as Persons they have equal needs, and in need it is equal to "you". i say, this Liberty, Greeks can give, more because, they are on this island an overwhelming majority, but as Greeks they can demonstrate a Bicommunal nature, that a Greek Flag can stand an equal to a Turkish Flag, and in Cyprus, a Cypriot Flag flies higher. Freedom, where all Individuals are equal, depends on the notion that beyond any Nation, there is a service to all Humanity, that in enmity there is goodness in our hatred, against real enemies united (Hunger, Disease, Disaster, Ignorance), not each other (Lest we Forget); in my mind, this is the Cypriot way.
...what is needed,(since the 'Remedy' is found in Turkey's dysfunction (let us assume that "Cyprus" is a template, (again))), to end the Problem, is a thought put into action as great as Ataturk's dream: a State where as Nations, Nations serve. and in Turkey, by emulation, for there to be a Turkish Constituency, in Cyprus so too a Greek Constituency; this is Modern thinking: no?
(as a Greek, my guess is that you would be interested; with ideas, in changing the world.)
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GreekIslandGirl wrote:We already have one Cypriot state. The Cypriot State!
- You need an option for the removal of the Turkish Occupiers. That's the only change needed.
...and what is it, that you can do, as a Greek, let alone a Cypriot, so that the Turkish Occupiers change their intention, and leave?
It is true what you say, there is a Cypriot state; and, there is a Cypriot State. as Constituencies, there exist many, not just Turks, and non-Turks; as Persons they have equal needs, and in need it is equal to "you". i say, this Liberty, Greeks can give, more because, they are on this island an overwhelming majority, but as Greeks they can demonstrate a Bicommunal nature, that a Greek Flag can stand an equal to a Turkish Flag, and in Cyprus, a Cypriot Flag flies higher. Freedom, where all Individuals are equal, depends on the notion that beyond any Nation, there is a service to all Humanity, that in enmity there is goodness in our hatred, against real enemies united (Hunger, Disease, Disaster, Ignorance), not each other (Lest we Forget); in my mind, this is the Cypriot way.
...what is needed,(since the 'Remedy' is found in Turkey's dysfunction (let us assume that "Cyprus" is a template, (again))), to end the Problem, is a thought put into action as great as Ataturk's dream: a State where as Nations, Nations serve. and in Turkey, by emulation, for there to be a Turkish Constituency, in Cyprus so too a Greek Constituency; this is Modern thinking: no?
(as a Greek, my guess is that you would be interested; with ideas, in changing the world.)
Friday, January 10, 2014
CYPRUS TO BE AGENDA IN ANKARA
http://cyprusscene.com/2014/01/08/34160/comment-page-1/#comment-87489
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...what is needed is a clear definition of the words, Individual, and Person. One talks of community rights, as though our Individual Rights need no defense, or that as a Nation, Freedom is second to the Liberty it provides.
To satisfy the desire for a Turkish Constituency in Cyprus, what is missing is other Constituencies. For if there was a Greek Constituency, they would be equals, and as Persons free to support an Agenda where they can sustain this distinct identity with the self-representation that effects their daily lives. The Republic of Cyprus would do well if this other level of Government existed, and as Citizens it would be possible to fly many flags, (as a bicommunal country) because it is the Cypriot Flag that would fly higher.
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...what is needed is a clear definition of the words, Individual, and Person. One talks of community rights, as though our Individual Rights need no defense, or that as a Nation, Freedom is second to the Liberty it provides.
To satisfy the desire for a Turkish Constituency in Cyprus, what is missing is other Constituencies. For if there was a Greek Constituency, they would be equals, and as Persons free to support an Agenda where they can sustain this distinct identity with the self-representation that effects their daily lives. The Republic of Cyprus would do well if this other level of Government existed, and as Citizens it would be possible to fly many flags, (as a bicommunal country) because it is the Cypriot Flag that would fly higher.
Wednesday, January 08, 2014
Liberman’s land swap proposal shakes up peace talks
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/01/liberman-land-swap-plan-pragmatic-logical-wadi-ara.html?utm_source=Al-Monitor+Newsletter+%5BEnglish%5D&utm_campaign=90b5e27e86-January_8_20141_8_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_28264b27a0-90b5e27e86-93108473
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...better if like Cyprus, Mr. Liberman may consider the value of a Bicommunal State, such as Canada. It would involve a Greater Israel, and as well there would be its Constituencies, who represent National Assemblies, and by a Territorial Jurisdiction for which they have their Charter from a Federal Government, zones where which an Agenda of Persons may serve their distinct identity first, but able are they to serve minorities amongst them by demonstrating the Goodwill they could expect reciprocally.
Mr. Liberman is wrong if he believes that cutting Cyprus in two is a good idea, what did Solomon do?
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...better if like Cyprus, Mr. Liberman may consider the value of a Bicommunal State, such as Canada. It would involve a Greater Israel, and as well there would be its Constituencies, who represent National Assemblies, and by a Territorial Jurisdiction for which they have their Charter from a Federal Government, zones where which an Agenda of Persons may serve their distinct identity first, but able are they to serve minorities amongst them by demonstrating the Goodwill they could expect reciprocally.
Mr. Liberman is wrong if he believes that cutting Cyprus in two is a good idea, what did Solomon do?
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