https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/03/19/study-gauges-political-gap-between-tcs-and-settlers/
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...news like this must be very unsettling to the "Greeks", and the "Turks", in Cyprus.
Good news for Cypriots, Greek or Turkish, indeed.
...whether the data is three years old or not, it is still accurate; consider the voting public in the illegally occupied territories, how they have voted for decades, and most recently as well.
Good news; for me at least: Cheers!
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They, the "They" you are talking about Huseyin, are the "Turks" and the "Greeks" that live among us.
...but, despite decades, they represent something less than half the voting population.
You may ignore this fact like "them", but it doesn't make it any less true. While we all hope that our Leadership will craft for us a solution that's agreeable, little confidence it seems exists that this may happen soon, i'll agree. And, if "they" go too far, that will be made clear, if it is the People who take to representing themselves. (They too, under their Flag, the Flag of Cyprus, may have "picnics" too.)
...there are Cypriots, and there are the "others". Are Cypriots the Problem?
"Greeks and "Turks" are no different to me. Indeed, the "Greeks" did lose in '74, because the Greeks "being" Cypriot did not support them. Anyone, Greek or Turkish Cypriot now, wishes the same defeat for "Turkishness", and for the same reasons. What is tearing Turkey itself apart today, this dogma, has torn Cyprus apart for far too long. Actually, unity in and for Turkey, what with its own need for Constitutional reform, may well begin in Cyprus, with Cypriots united; this is something to think about.
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Mr. Tatar wants to see "two states" as equals.
Mr. Anastasiades wants equality of all individuals without further discrimination or distinction.
...both are possible, and there are many successful BBFs, including the USA, to demonstrate this fact.
In Cyprus, as in these other States, two levels of Government are needed. Cypriots, all Cypriots having this Identity, as one, as this island's stewards, Individuals who defend the Universal Principals on which it is based, and as its Citizens sovereign over its affairs...
Cypriot Constituencies, within such a Cyprus will, with National Assemblies represent Persons, as a majority which demonstrates toward its minorities the capacity to provide for their special needs as well.
...my question for a long time has been, where is the Greek Constituency?
A Republic exists, needless to say with a Constitution in need of reform.
...where is an equal to a Turkish Constituency; i think is a good question to ask.
https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/02/21/flying-the-federal-flag-for-cyprus/
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Greek or Turkish, let's not forget that half the voting public, over decades, have voted as Cypriots, not as "Greeks" or not as "Turks". Such an identity, being Cypriot, cannot be ignored, but it is, by "them" whose intention is to define what a Cypriot will be, as though such a notion does not exist already.
Soon, i am hoping that "Greekness" like "Turkishness" will be exposed, by Cypriots, for what they are, a hateful mythic reality. Facing this existential threat, Cypriots may demonstrate their own solidarity under the Flag of Cyprus, the one "they" treat like a rag.
...Cypriots may have "Picnics" this summer; beside their Leadership, the People may represent themselves, too.
Representation as an Individual, is Freedom; Representation as Persons, is Liberty: what is a BBF?
...thank-you Mr. Alper.
https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/02/17/tatar-we-will-table-two-state-solution-at-talks/
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...indeed. I ask, where is the Greek Constituency, among the Cypriot constituencies, an equal in comparison to a Turkish Constituency? Isn't that the question; "two states"?
...indeed. The Republic of Cyprus exists. It's equal are the other States who put Universal Principals first; where, not as Persons, but as Individuals, equal, Citizens are treated without discrimination or distinction.
...isn't that what Cypriots, this island's dwellers, want?
The Person and the Individual, Liberty and Freedom, Nation and State; better defining these words defines the word Bicommunal. Ignoring the notion that Cypriots exist, that only "Greeks" and "Turks", exist is folly; intentions count.
https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/02/07/the-cyprob-should-end-how-it-began-with-the-constitution/
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...who remembers the Communal Chamber?
Why have both sides avoided discussing its value, talking Constitutional reform, for so long?
...is this where a solution lies?
What if the President did not involve himself in their affairs as Persons (Sovereignty not the issue) because he as their Leader represents them as Individuals instead?
Having the same needs in effect, could Constituencies come to an agreement, that if presented to the President, he would consider toward this Constitutional reform?
What if there was a Greek Constituency, filling their chairs in such a Chamber?
What if (accordingly,) Turkish Cypriots took their chairs in the Legislature ?
...intentions count.
I am hopeful Mr. Riza, because the People, despite the poor representation they are getting, remain.
...and i am counting on them, when things seem to be going too far, to represent themselves;
Cypriot Lives Matter.
https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/01/31/two-states-or-trnc-recognition/
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Quote:
"That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status."
...count them, for this agreement to fructify, there are (at least) three Constituencies. That of the People, as Individuals, the State, and those of the National Assemblies, where as Persons a majority with its agenda demonstrate their respect for the minorities that live among them, recognising and providing for their special needs as well.
Bicommunal cannot accurately be defined in Cyprus without recognising that even after decades of being unnaturally torn apart as "Greeks" and "Turks", (and despite the assimilation), that Cypriots also (still) exist, because while "they" have their own candidates, Cypriots about half the voting public no matter how its counted, have always had theirs' as well.
...indeed, if Mr. Tatar dares, while standing by the Flag of Cyprus, he may have what he wants, two states. If it were so, with the President between them, he would have an equal in the leader of such a second Cypriot Constituency, in effect, and a Cypriot way.
...indeed, we see what "Turkishness" is doing to Turkey, and what it has done, in Cyprus, as the Problem.
Mr. Tatar would do well to consider, if he is a "Cypriot Turk", to recall that Turkish Cypriots cannot be ignored. Going too far, deluding himself, that they will remain silent, will only provoke them to action. And if it came to this, through public demonstration, with Cyprus the existential question, not just Turkish Cypriots, but Cypriots in solidarity, as a grand exposition of their Flag, rightfully theirs, the Flag of Cyprus, will also have "picnics" too.
https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/01/18/tatar-controversially-renames-bicommunal-committees/
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...what is a "Cypriot Turk" for example?
Turkish Cypriots, like all Cypriots, may come to understand that silenced as they are, "Turkishness", (like "Greekness" decades ago), now looms large as the existential threat which usurps their singular identity: those who love this island as this island's steward.
...i am waiting for Cypriots to have their "picnics", in the spring and summer, quite frankly.
They, also may express themselves, (under their Flag, the one rightfully theirs, the Flag of Cyprus,) and demonstrate to Mr. Tatar (and Mr. Erdogan), that: "Turks" may exist, so too "Greeks" as he defines them, but that (despite their denial) Greeks and Turks who are about half the voting population either way exist who are Cypriot.
...with this petty dithering that someone in his office must be quite proud of, he does himself no favours.
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Erdogan, one hopes, will recognise that Cypriots, like Cyprus, exist. The Problem which has torn apart Cyprus for decades, "Turkishness", now threatens, and for the same reasons, to tear Turkey apart.
https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/01/17/us-model-best-for-cyprus/
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...well said, Mr. Riza.
Indeed. i have asked for a long time, who represents Cypriots, having been divided by the "Greeks" and "Turks" that live among them? And what of the Rule of Law, values and principals, which people as a People respect: as Individuals, not just as Persons; such, is defined a State, above the notion of Nations that live within it.
...thank-you.
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Tatar asks for "Sovereign Equality", and what is wrong with that?
I ask where is this equal, among Cypriot Constituencies, when no other Constituency actually exists?
Where is this Sovereignty as Cypriots?
Is it unreasonable to ask, who represents Cypriots when the Government, of Cyprus, is represented by Greeks exclusively, except of course the one Turkish Cypriot MEP which won a seat recently?
Is Cyprus "Greek"? Indeed, where is the Greek Constituency?
And as a Constituency would it not have this same capacity to better define their distinct identity?
If Cyprus is to be truly, a BBF, (like the USA, or Canada, e.g.), there is Freedom as a People, Individuals without further distinction or discrimination, and Liberty, where as Persons, they demonstrate toward each other the same respect and trust (by also providing for the special needs of the minorities living among them).
Who represents Cypriots? If left to the opposition, it seems, no one. Yet Disy, and AKEL are no better without moving forward, beyond the smaller Parties, as Cypriots; they too remain in denial, who they are representing: not "Greeks", and obviously not "Turks".
...without Policy, and a Mission that can be supported by all Cypriots they will remain nothing more than contributors to the impotence they all suffer.
It will be the People i suspect who will rise this spring and summer, to represent themselves, against the "Turkishness" (and "Greekness") they will expose, and to demand change. As Cypriots one would expect them to stand in solidarity threatened existentially, under their Flag, the one which is rightfully "theirs", the Flag of Cyprus.
Let's not forget, even divided as they are for decades, Cypriots have always represented something (more) than half of the voting population; something to think about.
Cypriots, finding no representation as Cypriots, may have "picnics" too.
https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/01/11/disy-rift-over-federation-as-a-cyprus-solution/
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...does Disy represent "Greeks"? What has Disy done to better define Cypriots, or does that matter? While AKEL can also be asked the same questions, they at least elected recently a Turkish Cypriot to represent Cyprus as its MEP.
What of the illegally occupied territories, what of the regime which subjugates Cypriots to "Turkishness". What of the "picnic"? Who but Koray Basdogrultmaci and Cinel Senem Husseyin dare to fly the Flag of Cyprus there?
"That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status."
...indeed, there may be (based on Universal Principals) a Republic of Cyprus in need of Constitutional Reform, and there may be a Turkish Constituency. I ask, therefore, where is the Greek Constituency that fulfills their need to promote "Hellenism", (and a Cypriot way,) having this equal need as other Cypriot Constituencies to thrive, (because they respect and recognise the minorities, as Persons among them, providing as well for their special needs)?
Who represents Cypriots? (Who represents "Greeks"?)
https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus26911.html#p904318
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...lists, impeccable Government lists have been found that document the atrocities you speak of Paphitis, and (ten years later) beyond firing squads against people who riot, their "education" continues.
Yes, Erdogan picks and chooses; here is hypocrisy as an ultimate example. While he is building his Nationalist dogma, (a Caliphate) larger than States, in Libya, in Sudan and most recently in Azerbaijan, (in Syria, Iran and Iraq), (in Pakistan and Indonesia), "Turkishness" does not reach the Uighur despite the unspeakable crimes they are suffering, because they are (Chinese in his mind, or) something else, i suppose; Turkish perhaps, but not like "Turks" (unlike the "Cypriot Turks", but like Turkish Cypriots, for example).
...both Erdogan and Xi are complicit in their questioning of Humanity's resolve toward defending Universal Principals; they take "us" as an adversary, and to their own advantage, they are masters of Individualism.
https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/11/21/the-last-mile-the-significance-of-political-equality/
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...and what have we learned as Cypriots? Such as it is, "Greekness" and "Turkishness" have found a way to divide us and leave us silenced to their usurping of such an Identity. But, the result from decades of this brutal assimilation is a People, which despite it remain.
Such as it is with God, the Cypriot way: a choice.
...trust, respect toward each other; those who serve Lovingly.
Indeed, our Faith, as Cypriots, is united. Having many Faiths who stand together in such celebrations are not uncommon here. Yet, our Leadership in all its forms has let us down; on this i will agree. It seems that way because they have taken the position of their worst extremes, and this is a corruption that willfully dismisses what is a simple fact: Persons like Individuals are not so easily defined but by merit. (the words, charity, and grace, come to mind.) That, despite all our differences, there is, (even in a world of many gods, or none,) one God.
Perhaps Individuals, like Persons should not be defined, but recognised, in Cyprus.
"Greeks" like "Turks" are a Political myth, Cypriots are real.
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...well said.
Indeed, who does the Republic represent?
Who represents Cypriots, as Cypriots?
Divided as we are, what is left but free expression, for "Greeks" and "Turks".
Indeed, Erdogan is tearing Turkey apart, with his dogma, of "Turkishness"; and all his neighbours feel the same disruptions that Cyprus has suffered for decades now.
For all of us, the rest of Humanity, there is reason to fear such a notion which questions Universal Principals, or ignores them. At the very root of this problem, against it stand the Cypriots, if as Cypriots, they take back the word ENOSIS, that has divided them for so long, if as Cypriots, if as a People united, Turkish and Greek, they stand against "Greekness" and "Turkishness".
...let's talk Cypriot Constituencies, if we want a BBF: Freedom, as Individuals; Liberty as Persons.
Indeed, the People, cannot expect change from their Leadership, without demonstrating for the changes they want, themselves. I expect many "picnics" everywhere in Cyprus (which includes the illegally occupied territories), come the spring and summer. The Flag of Cyprus, the one "they" treat as a rag, i imagine will also figure predominantly. Thusly, Mr. Tatar, and Mr. Erdogan will be hard pressed to deny Cypriots as few. They will be hard pressed to deny Cypriots their Identity, existentially speaking, as well.
...souvla lalis?
https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus46325-310.html#p902774
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Zimbabwe is not a pretty picture, and there are members of the Rhodes family that i know now living in Canada; humble to say the least.
...vast tracks of unused land were not given to the People, (everything was taken instead,) as was the promise, by going against the landowners; and what was taken was taken most brutally, i remember.
I was hopeful, Cap, that Blacks could rule their own lives, that in a world of integration, even more growth; equitably by being more providing.
...but that didn't happen, and the bastard that assassinated his opposition ruled for the rest of his life having died only recently; what of his wife i ask, she is apparently one of the richest women in the world?
This much, i know of Rhodesia, and my opinion.
How does it compare to the Problem, in Cyprus?
...good people suffered. Such a world of "Blacks" and "Whites", like those in Cyprus i call "Greeks" and "Turks", have one intention, to make victims of Blacks and Whites, Greeks and Turks, unlike "them".
Indeed, Cypriot Lives Matter.
Cheers.
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Indeed, such hypocrisy.
I ask, where is the Greek Constituency? (Who should dare to ask this question?)
Where is there self-representation, as Persons, for Greeks; (or, Maronite, Armenians, Latins)?
What of Cypriot Constituencies?
Such as it is, and such as it will be, the Republic represents its Citizens, without further distinction, or discrimination, as Cypriots, as Individuals and all equal. These the same Principals all Humanity accepts, recognises, and respects. And; at another level of Government closer to home, closer to Taxes paid in effect.
(What is a BBF?)
Indeed, Greek Cypriots, like Turkish Cypriots, have no representation as Persons, yet.
Notions like "Greekness" and "Turkishness" have proven to be over decades costly to the interlocutors. (And most costly to Cypriots, let's not forget.) Cypriots, despite much denial, remain, not few, but about half the voting population; this, despite the unnatural divide: the assimilation that has gone with it toward keeping them divided.
Who represents Cypriots, as Cypriots?
(What is a Nationalist? What is a Patriot?)
...DIKO, like the "Greens", may want to look at, who, they want to serve.
DISY and AKEL, should do the same.
…indeed, i ask again, who but AKEL can lead the vanguard from silenced to silent no more, in the occupied territories, as Cypriots Turkish and Greek under the Flag of Cyprus demonstrating this truth, that Cypriots are not few as those “Greek” and “Turkish” in their delusions deny.
Who dares to better define, what it is to be a Cypriot? Who dares to demonstrate as Cypriots, this fact with acts?
…indeed, without the People, what is AKEL but leaderless, if it is the People AKEL represents.
Also something to think about.
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...welcome news, a long time in the making.
It may seem a ridiculous dream, what with oil and gas being the center of so many wars, but in this case, where regional hegemony may demonstrate its power over Turkey and its desire to be in this sea its supreme controlling interest, I am hopeful.
The years of Turkish meddling in Lebanese affairs, relating to this issue, it seems, are wasted. Lebanon, like the rest of the world, (Muslim or not), respect the Universal Principals and the Rule of Law that define us, as Human beings. UNCLOS, and the Treaties of Lausanne and Sevres cannot be ignored, nor solutions that are not military. The Problem, in affect, the very root of this and so many other problems festers because of Erdogan's bigger aims. "Turkishness", as it is defined by him, puts all of us, not "Turkish", (in his "sweet isolation"), against him.
...Lebanon has made their choice, one that is unwavering; unlike those Libyans, in power, whose existence is secured by the UN, and who ignore the very principles on which their claims (over an EEZ) are based having Turkey's support.
Lebanon, like all its' neighbours, but one, remain committed to the notion that beyond a Nation there is a wider Family of Man; that real enemies exist and they are not each other.
...one hopes there will be more to cheer, at Turkey's Centennial in two (three) years; that with a small change in intentions, to change the world, Erdogan may find the Statesmanship he is lacking: the difference between a Nationalist and a Patriot.
https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/10/25/tatar-says-working-hard-to-get-diplomatic-recognition/
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...poor Mr. Tatar. I am waiting for him to make himself a fool suggesting his social-economy is acceptable as it is, to the EU, as an equal to the Republic. I am waiting for Mr. Erdogan to make a fool of him on an International stage, as he did to Mr. Talat, (who remembers the Grand Prix in Istanbul?), and Mr. Akinci, (presented as the "President of the TRNC" at an International Gala, but not important enough just one week before to sit at his daughter's wedding). But perhaps, this time it will not be Erdogan, but the People who will make him look small.
Perhaps i have a long memory, i think it is a Cypriot trait. I ask, how long will it take for Cypriots, Turkish and Greek, to understand that those "Greek" and "Turkish" are one in the same, that like Mr. Tatar their values are not Cypriot values, and that existentially, this Identity, Cypriot, will be usurped from them silenced.
...how long will it take for Greek Cypriots to join with their brethren at the very root of the Problem today, in the occupied territories, to declare, as Cypriots, that such a People exist no longer silent, under the Flag rightfully theirs, and as people, peacefully, in solidarity and in public demonstrations, exposing this fact to "them", to the other half, what elections have revealed for decades, that their delusion as "Greeks" or "Turks" who believe that only "they" may define what a Cypriot will mean, (that Cypriots in their minds are very few), is wrong.
Mr. Tatar is Erdogan's man; how will he feel when again banners say Assiktir Turkiye with thousands behind them.
...and who is Tufan, who came in third; i am very hopeful that AKEL will help his drive to keep Cyprus united, taking again the opportunity to join with all kinds of Cypriots, (as an example, what they did to find a candidate, now Cyprus' MEP a Turkish Cypriot), like DISY, a party not necessarily for "Greeks" who must follow in finding Cypriots as support, fellow conservatives who can agree on such a (read: their) Platform for Cypriots.
...and let's not forget the youth, what "Turkishness" represents to them. Such a dogma is an anathema to what they want in terms of Freedom, what expresses the love they have for Cyprus, and that as the (future) stewards of this island what they see as better reasons for remaining united, a People who live as people by the Rule of Law, as a State based on Universal Principals, and as Individuals, equals, without further distinction or discrimination.
...if i was Tatar, i would ask, where is the Greek Constituency? (If it is a BBF Greeks are seeking;) Who represents these Persons called Greeks? Who politically is his equal if a President represents Cypriots as a whole?
Indeed, what of Cypriot Constituencies? All of them, i imagine, have the same basic needs toward promoting their own distinct identities. Who doubts that Cypriots, with such a "mentality" could not find a Cypriot solution if Sovereignty was not on the table. But, Tatar seems at peace with being a "Turk", and i am not Tatar.
https://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus47211-60.html#p901773
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...frankly, i am hopeful.
What harm will Tatar do but piss off the electorate who identify with the island as their home?
...indeed the "Greeks" and the "Turks" will seek to express a sentiment that escalates the enmity between them; this time Cypriots may not be so easily led as such, instead by representing themselves, on the streets, exposing "them".
AKEL, the Unions and the urban masses, have a big role in demonstrating, under the Flag of Cyprus, that such a thing as a Cypriot Identity already exists.
...DISY too, has a role to play, by finding candidates (as MEP, e.g.), and a team, from all walks of Cypriot life; as Cypriots, who will support for President, their choice in the next election campaign.
What better time to define the difference existentially, "Them" and "Us"; and on so many levels.
...what better way to express this unity, but in the occupied territories, peacefully and under the Flag of Cyprus?
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...it is a good day for Cyprus. Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots still represent about half the population in the occupied territories, despite the meddling in their elections by the mythic "motherland" (read: Erdogan).
...who is Akinci, in any case, a Cypriot? He had many chances, from the day he was elected to demonstrate this fact; perhaps they have chosen very wisely.
Indeed, the result was not the one expected; by the numbers Akinci should have won. This demonstrates, to me, even more clearly what is to be done. A Leader of Cypriots, Turkish or Greek, cannot sit on the fence, as Akinci continued to do in face of his isolation by and from those for "Turkishness".
...Turkish Cypriots want some form of self-representation, this much is also clear.
I ask, where are the other Cypriot Constituencies?
Who, as Individuals cannot stand with other Cypriots, for Cyprus, to defend the Universal Principals on which such a notion is based?
...who as Constituencies, as Persons, have needs any different (either)?
If splitting the island in two, is not what Bicommunal and Bizonal mean; what do they mean?
So far, our Leadership has not demonstrated their commitment to finding answers to these questions. This will change because the youth do not see dogma, like "Greekness" or "Turkishness" suitable models, what with their lifestyles and concerns. Only as Cypriots can they enjoy this island Free, to be good stewards toward it.
Only as a People, can Cypriots enjoy the Liberty of nurturing beyond that, as people, their distinct identities.
Tatar, is now the President of a so called country already sullied by its only promoter as an impotent title.
The opposition to it will regroup only stronger, given that the existential threat to Cypriots has increased.
...i am hopeful.
Dearest President,
Somewhere in the USA, someone read today from my blog, the comment I am sending to you.
...i ask, despite such a notion's possibility, is it correct; in terms of the system we have (in need of reform), and its intention: is this not the way we may communicate, starting from the Constitution itself?
https://bbxb.blogspot.com/2019/11/leaders-should-remember-their.html
What is Justice seen, what is confidence building, what is ultimately what Cypriots are waiting for, need, and want (from their Leaders)?
First, needed is a single step together, you and Mr. Akinci, the most dangerous of all, to stand together under the Flag which rightfully "belongs" to all Cypriots. Thus, enjoined (read: enosis) to banish "Turkishness" and "Greekness" as the same, in the name of Cypriots; and, as an adversary to such hatefulness, as Cypriots: under the Flag of Cyprus for a Cypriot way standing together.
To be sure, there will be much shock and opposition to such a notion, that Cypriots exist; (but) from who?
And if you dared Akinci, after this/his election (holding cards, isolated as he has been, because of his "Cypriotness" (if you will).as the adversary to Erdogan's subjugation) would he find himself with you standing beside him, "being" Cypriot, taking that plunge; because as Cypriots, what is clearer between the two of you is that, Cypriot lives matter?
As such, it is natural, that from the population that sees Cypriots as non-existent, to see outrage; for Cypriots, to expose them, (and to much International esteem,) is that a bad thing?
There is no denying it, what with Akinci's election win, as I surmise, on Sunday, negotiations between the two of you will become the priority.
The Flag of Cyprus, indeed, by standing under it unifies; making Cypriots equal: like in Turkey no less (and in Greece), as the People, great in their diversity, a State, because as people standing under it they defend the Universal Principles on which it is based, not just the Nation and the distinct identity on which they may identify as Persons, more but that too "being" Individuals.
'Just for Cyprus'; under such a Banner: who dares?
If you stand under the Flag of Cyprus, who can doubt that the People, Cypriots will stand beside you.
If you stood under the Flag of Cyprus, together, with Akinci in the occupied territories, wouldn't those who gather better define Cypriots, the People?
...certainly something to think about.
"Turkishness", a scourge beyond our borders, and in Turkey itself, to get rid of it now, is, in effect, our goal; it can be rid of here, in Cyprus: united, as Cypriots.
Cypriots, and Turkish Cypriots at the vanguard, not the Alevi or the Kurds, not the Greeks or the Armenians, not the EU or USA, remain the greatest threat to this dogma, at its very root, what is Erdogan's dogma, "Turkishness"; despite having been silenced, torn apart now decades, not usurped: for so long a force as voters representing about half the population (and more) any way its counted, Cypriots.
..also something to think about.
Warmly,
Most Respectfully Yours,
RW
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DISY should be looking to Turkish Cypriots, against this injustice. Just like the "Greek"/Greek divide, Cypriots who are Turkish represent about half the population of the "Cypriot Turk" regime.
...who represents Cypriots, as Cypriots i ask? Who will give Turkish Cypriots their support against this unnatural divide? All "Turks" may support these illegal acts in Varosha, but Turkish Cypriots do not.
I had hopes with AKEL's win, their Turkish Cypriot candidate now Cyprus' MEP, that it would change what is the electoral frontier forever. But then again, i still have hope that those silenced for so many years will represent themselves, by demonstrating under their Flag, rightfully theirs, the Flag of Cyprus, if their leadership will not.
...who remembers "Asiktir Turkiye"? It was not so long ago. (Or, the Occupy Movement which put Cyprus, and Cypriots, first.)
Cypriots (again) could join together, this time around. The People (despite the Leaders) always have this power.
..."Greekness", like "Turkishness" represent the same side of the coin, in Cyprus. Cypriots, Greek and Turkish, represent the other. It is not so hard to understand, yet for decades such a notion has been dismissed because it would mean overcoming the fear within ourselves as Cypriots, in recognising this as fact.
..."right wing", being Conservative, does not mean "being Greek" (or "being Turkish"): Cypriot lives matter.
The world can do nothing in practical terms for Cypriots. Cypriots (collectively) could do more with a Leadership that has a mind that speaks to, and for, all of them. DISY, and AKEL, both fail Cypriots in this regard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-irt5MZWzKM
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Turkey in Syria.
Turkey in Libya.
Turkey in this sad affair.
How did she become involved?
...one can see a pattern.
Oh yes, Turkey in Cyprus.
Turkey in Lebanon
Turkey in Israel
Turkey in the EU
Turkey in the USA
(Turkey in Greece)
...none where Erdogan's Turkey is trusted as a reliable friend.
It is Turkey i worry about, its People, because they (will) suffer most, for "Turkishness".
This conflict, like so may others is Erdogan's game.
...yet, with a small change in intentions, on his part, he may demonstrate the wisdom needed to solve the Problem; all these problems.
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...indeed, it is the Aegean, as it is divided, which make Greece and Turkey, as adversaries, equal.
Turkey does not have the longest coastline; Greece does: while Turkey as a landmass is much bigger.
...this the Treaty of Lausanne (and Sevres), which in Erdogan's Turkey is relegated to the dustbin.
"Turkishness" questions the values of Universal Principals, and "our" conviction as Human Beings.
...having become the Cyprus Problem, then the problem in Cyprus, to a problem among many: this the Problem.
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...a great idea, with both sides having to make convincing arguments over what is good for the country.
Indeed, the Lebanese, like so many in their region are, in effect, Bicommunal: they regard themselves' as Individuals, and they identify as Persons; of having distinct identities.This much is clear, at least.
...what is a State; since Nations seem easy enough to identify?
Here, the Lebanese People must decide, certainly no mono-clonal mass. As Lebanese, will their Leadership (for their own good), for the good of the Country, overcome their own fears, (and corruption); "them"/"us"?
Putting aside their differences as Persons, one Hopes that as Individuals they may demonstrate beyond Nationalism (and "blood"), Patriotism (and Principal), above all as one. (And, even as Persons, demonstrating such Goodwill, Goodfaith, by providing as Majorities for the special needs of their Minorities accordingly.)
...where is the Green Line, seemingly, having disappeared, from Beirut and Berlin?
...yet, "this" must stop: (is this, the Problem?)
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...indeed, Iran, (and Turkey), have made themselves the center of the Arab world's attention.
But, their intentions as claimed are religious, (so too Pakistan).
The Brotherhood supports them, or is it the other way around? For Erdogan at least there is his one desire: "Protector" of a Caliphate he says will return to Istanbul. Such is their alliance for Islam, as "Muslims" (read: "Islamists"), now starkly in contrast to the Jews and Arabs who stand together against their threat, along with the rest of the world. Such is the state of Humanity at the brink of more War.
..what about God? I ask, the malice of bad intentions, who is to blame? One God, who stands (Lovingly) for this?
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...if he has the courage to stand as a Cypriot, making it very clear he is no "Turk", he will not be pushed to the side as you say, he will take center stage; and he may win.
...having won, from the support he has from Cypriots, everything will change. Even in the Presidential election (in two years), the issue, what is a Cypriot may become as an issue that much clearer; not "Greek", not "Turkish", such a constituency as a whole. And "being" Turkey's National Issue, such an act by Cypriots, changing themselves, bettering themselves, for Cyprus, it may be cause for Hope, in Turkey, over that which divides Turkey, now: "Turkishness".
"Turkey", one hopes, will be removed by the People, in Cyprus. But which People? (And how?)
...this is something, Max, i strongly suggest you think about a little more closely.
...in Cyprus it should be Cypriots (and without force). If you are a Cypriot; this should be plain to you.
Not "Greek" and not "Turk", Turkish or Greek should make no difference, as a Cypriot, wouldn't you say it is "our" battle?
Occupied, or not occupied, as "Cyprus" has been defined (by 'them") for the same reason, to a Cypriot, should make no difference either, don't you think?
...are you telling me that you believe that "Cypriot Turks" voted in Akinci, that Turkish Cypriots do not exist, that to "be" a Cypriot one must be "Greek", that all people Turkish are "Turks"?
Please explain how that is any different to the "Turks" who call Greeks, "Greeks", and Turks traitors?
...i suggest "they" (as Dogmas,) are the same, and no different; this, Cypriots silenced as they have become may demonstrate once again awakened: that they are neither.
...and in the context of this topic, critically important, for "this" to change regionally speaking, as well.
As in Cyprus, where it is unthinkable of it ever becoming "Greek" again, Turkey can never be "Turkish". Both Cyprus, and Turkey, are States. Neither can claim that such an existence includes discrimination or distinction for one Nation over another, Constitutionally speaking, because they are based on the Universal Principals on which our Humanity is based. Mr. Erdogan has a choice, and, he has chosen to disrupt his relations, internationally, and with all his neighbours, one also hopes, to be in a better position to move these players to work comprehensively, toward a solution, in effect, on what is his Problem; getting passed the Treaty of Lausanne.
...indeed, he has a choice to make. Who will he betray, in making his Legacy, the People of Turkey, the world, or, the Nation as he describes it, expanding? To some degree, he may get satisfaction for both, if he has a mind to.
...and let's not forget that he has only two years to do it in, in time for Turkey's Centennial.